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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • March 14, 2016 at 2:34 pm #319040
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    In addition to Rumple being in NYC, so are Henry and Violet (on what appears to be the street where Neal’s apartment is located). This is all happening in an episode called Only You.

    I swear, I need to calm down and take a nap. #NoMoreHope

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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 14, 2016 at 2:51 pm #319049
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    OMG! In addition to Rumple being in NYC, so are Henry and Violet (on what appears to be the street where Neal’s apartment is located). This is all happening in an episode called Only You. I swear, I need to calm down and take a nap. #NoMoreHope

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    It all gets the side eye from me but….don’t go too far down the rabbit hole yet.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 14, 2016 at 3:11 pm #319057
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 14, 2016 at 5:36 pm #319084
    CrownedWithLaurels
    Participant

    Uhhhhhhh………….
    Uhhhhhhhhh………….

    Keeper Nealfire's/Bae's scarf, Henry and Neal's bribery ice cream sundae, Baelfire's sword, the coconut map, and more.

    March 15, 2016 at 1:45 am #319140
    hjbau
    Participant

    I know. Didn’t they specifically say that the pen couldn’t write dead people back alive and now that is what Cruella is suggesting? Stupid show.

    March 15, 2016 at 2:11 am #319142
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    I know. Didn’t they specifically say that the pen couldn’t write dead people back alive and now that is what Cruella is suggesting? Stupid show.

    It is confusing. Basically, Cruella said the apprentice lied to Henry.

    In 4×22, the apprentice said,

    “Not even an author can bring back the dead, no matter how much he might wish it…Your father, Baelfire, died in the real world, and that sadly can never be undone.”

    Cruella and Henry then had this convo in 5×13,

    Henry: You’re already dead. No one can change that.
    Cruella: Actually, one person can: the author. Oh yes, that’s you now.
    Henry: No, the apprentice told me it’s impossible.
    Creulla: Because he didn’t want you to! But Henry, you can. The author’s power if far greater than that bearded old man wanted you to believe.

    So either Cruella is lying about the apprentice lying to Henry, or she is telling the truth. As mad as she is, I’m inclined to believe her. What does she gain by lying about it? Nothing. What does she gain by being honest? Potentially everything.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 15, 2016 at 2:37 am #319143
    Bar Farer
    Participant
    hjbau wrote:

    I know. Didn’t they specifically say that the pen couldn’t write dead people back alive and now that is what Cruella is suggesting? Stupid show.

    It is confusing. Basically, Cruella said the apprentice lied to Henry. In 4×22, the apprentice said,

    “Not even an author can bring back the dead, no matter how much he might wish it…Your father, Baelfire, died in the real world, and that sadly can never be undone.”

    Cruella and Henry then had this convo in 5×13,

    Henry: You’re already dead. No one can change that. Cruella: Actually, one person can: the author. Oh yes, that’s you now. Henry: No, the apprentice told me it’s impossible. Creulla: Because he didn’t want you to! But Henry, you can. The author’s power if far greater than that bearded old man wanted you to believe.

    So either Cruella is lying about the apprentice lying to Henry, or she is telling the truth. As mad as she is, I’m inclined to believe her. What does she gain by lying aobut it? Nothing. What does she gain by being honest? Potentially everything.

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    The problem I have with this is that we saw Rumple and Isaac say the exact same thing in a different situation where none of them had any reason to lie.

    What they try to do here is to ignore something the established because it’s inconvenient. That’s bad writing and it’s inexcusable.

    "All your questions are pointless"

    March 15, 2016 at 2:56 am #319144
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    It’s undoubtably a big oversight. Then again, this is the show that brought us the Marian-is-really-Zelena mother of all retcons.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 15, 2016 at 6:08 am #319147
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    The pen can do whatever the writers want it to do, and that can change week to week. That’s potentially a very interesting idea while giving the side-eye to the show. Sadly, it also means that the writers can write in as many loopholes, unforseen consequences, or random rules that they want.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 15, 2016 at 2:19 pm #319165
    Jiminy’s Journal
    Participant

    Basically, Cruella said the apprentice lied to Henry.

    Sneaky Mouse.

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