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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • March 22, 2016 at 3:05 pm #319847
    nevermore
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    Even “rekilling” Milha (as terrible as it was) is down to Hades threatening his unborn child. Rumple already showed he’s willing to kill to protect his kids. It doesn’t excuse Rumple at all, but I guess it frames it in a way that is understandable. Even Emma killed Cruella to protect Henry.

    Oh, absolutely — and I know you’re not a “Rumple apologist” (lulz) — I think I probably fit that bill more than you, though even I have increasing trouble seeing Rumple as compelling, even as a foil 🙂 And don’t get me started on the replacement baby thing — what is it with this show and the “salvation by replacement baby” theme? Seriously? Snow, Zelena and now Rumple. I just don’t understand how writers who have the actual real life experience of being parents can come up with such nonsense.

    I suppose what I was getting at is that in the last 2 seasons, but especially s5, Rumple seems to have ceased experiencing “independent” character growth, as so much of his character’s past and present milestones seem to be used or retconned to further Hook’s trajectory. It’s like his character has become a function of Hook’s. Hence my pessimistic prediction that the revenge plot will be another way to ultimately whitewash Hookio while using Rumple to create an artificial sense of Hook’s character progress. I hope I’m totally wrong.

    More generally, in Lily Sparks’ words, OUAT has essentially become about manpain. Even Regina’s been sidelined in favor of the collective manpain. It was fine in balanced doses in the early seasons, when all the other characters were given equal attention, but it’s disproportionally overtaken the show. I suppose I am admittedly biased: while I’m willing to sit through Rumple’s manpain because Bobby makes the character interesting despite the often reprehensible writing decisions, I just can’t bring myself to extend the same courtesy to Hook, or to CS.

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    March 22, 2016 at 3:26 pm #319851
    Rainbow
    Participant

    I have seen some huge dearie and Bobby fan, saying online that eh knows from inside sources that  that Bobby sign for a S6 but said he will only do S6, bc the show still has in their minds that OUAT will last at least until S7, but that Bobby said no S7

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    March 22, 2016 at 4:51 pm #319860
    Rainbow
    Participant

    Just saw the  script tease,  im wondering from which teen soap opera they copied that? I mean that doesnt even sound a dialogue written by professional writers. However my reaction to that script “fan pandering” tease was this.

    But now on a more serious tone, the show writers win a lot of money to write that type of script, right? yeah, cant do it, still laughing a lot.

     

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    March 22, 2016 at 7:01 pm #319864
    Rainbow
    Participant

    In other exciting news, MRJ has now instagram and facebook.

    https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/712391218169192448

    https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/712050602616946688

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    March 22, 2016 at 10:21 pm #319871
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    It stood out to me when he said it, but I was too busy rolling my eyes to think much more of it.

    This is exactly how it went for me. I was too busy groaning and muttering about never ending cycles. 

    More generally, in Lily Sparks’ words, OUAT has essentially become about manpain. Even Regina’s been sidelined in favor of the collective manpain. It was fine in balanced doses in the early seasons, when all the other characters were given equal attention, but it’s disproportionally overtaken the show. I suppose I am admittedly biased: while I’m willing to sit through Rumple’s manpain because Bobby makes the character interesting despite the often reprehensible writing decisions, I just can’t bring myself to extend the same courtesy to Hook, or to CS.

    And THAT is really it.

    I have nothing constructive to say.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 23, 2016 at 2:10 am #319875
    Jiminy’s Journal
    Participant

    That script tease: I couldn’t take it seriously. It’s as if it’s from a parody.

    Oh, brother!

    Anyway:

    TinyCocoaDrops made this:
    Oh my glob, these two! Ducklingspark/Swanfire/Swan Thief FTW!

    HeatherFields’ version of how Neal would react to the BttF reference in 321.

    Look at the car. Also the date used in the image.

    What CS really is.

    Why SF will always be better than CS.

    March 23, 2016 at 6:47 am #319876
    WickedRegal
    Participant

    Look at how excited they were…this is what it should have been.

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    March 23, 2016 at 7:12 am #319877
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Ok well that Henry GIF set just made me tear up at 7 am, so thanks for that.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 23, 2016 at 8:22 am #319878
    Rainbow
    Participant

    Look at how excited they were…this is what it should have been.

    That only makes me mad, bc besides Colin and Sean, all the rest simply pretend  in public that MRJ was never in the show. UGh, but then i remember the support for all the other people that worked with him in other projects and all is good.

    "I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".

    March 23, 2016 at 10:58 am #319884
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    From Tumblr:

    The notion of “I will wait for you to be ready” is always, always, always more romantic and captivating than the “I will win you over and you’ll be mine” mentality. Every. Single. Time.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

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