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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • March 29, 2016 at 8:47 am #320277
    RumplesGirl
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    Read this on Tumblr:

    So let’s just count how many symbols of betrayal CS has The Excalibur Promethean fire Camelot’s flowers Liam’s ring x

    That!

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    Yup.

    Also, does anyone else think it’s funny that the gates of Hell are in the “CS house”?

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 29, 2016 at 10:29 am #320284
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Also, does anyone else think it’s funny that the gates of Hell are in the “CS house”?

    Yes

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 29, 2016 at 10:54 am #320286
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Despite all of these obvious acts and symbols of betrayal going on with CS, I’m still bracing for a CS TLK and proposal at the end of S5. That is how this show is now; it’s all about villains getting their happy endings. Plus, there is an obvious parallel between Nimue betraying Merlin and Hook and Emma betraying each other. Then there’s the heavy-handed foreshadowing:

    From 5×11:

    David: What about Merlin’s message? He said this “Nimue” is the key to stopping the Dark One.
    Emma: Nimue was Merlin’s true love.

    The fact that Emma called Nimue Merlin’s “true love” (after Nimue’s spirit convinced Hook to murder Merlin to cast the dark curse) just goes to show how warped this show’s (and by extension Emma’s) definition of true love has become. Emma and Hook’s names being inscribed on Excalibur gets romanticized, despite it obviously being a symbol of their mutual betrayal and hurt of one another. The ring that Liam gave Hook is a symbol of a pact made with Hades to mass murder his entire crew, yet that ring is now a symbol of CS and might be used as an eventual engagement ring by the end of the season. How romantic is that? *twitch*

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 29, 2016 at 11:04 am #320287
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Yay. I am filled with a joy that cannot be properly expressed.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 29, 2016 at 12:29 pm #320293
    nevermore
    Participant

    How romantic is that?

    Only if you like your romantic with a side of Hannibal Lecter.

    But more seriously, I just can’t understand how the writers aren’t aware of this. Surely, one is a random occurrence, two is a coincidence, but three and more is a pattern, no? And even if they are that thick, don’t they have a “reception” team of interns that are paid (poorly) to troll tumblr/twitter etc and report on how the audience is reacting? Or something? Surely someone must be pointing out that at least a portion of the audience has noticed this?

    I think I’ve said this before, but it almost looks like what you’d see if a media product were to be created under conditions of political or ideological censure (at least, from what I remember of my Soviet cinema classes back in grad school…with a minor difference that a lot of Soviet cinema was actually good). It’s a pretty common strategy: the text is ideologically correct and towing the party line, but there’s a subtext that runs counter to the official message. Clearly, there is no political censure hanging over OUAT, but this is too egregious to just be sloppy writing.

    March 29, 2016 at 12:35 pm #320295
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    And even if they are that thick, don’t they have a “reception” team of interns that are paid (poorly) to troll tumblr/twitter etc and report on how the audience is reacting? Or something? Surely someone must be pointing out that at least a portion of the audience has noticed this?

    You would think so…but I often doubt it. I honestly think the writers are deaf and blind to the fandom and the fandom’s reactions. Did they, for instance, notice that last night people got “Emma deserves better” trending on Twitter? Or that Once Upon a Hook has become a popular saying?

    But then these are probably the same interns who misspelled Neal’s name on Twitter a few times, who tweet nothing but Hook photos and CS videos.

     

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 29, 2016 at 12:52 pm #320297
    nevermore
    Participant

    But then these are probably the same interns who misspelled Neal’s name on Twitter a few times, who tweet nothing but Hook photos and CS videos.

    lol *imagines coalition of CS-minded interns all conspiring to report that all is sunshine, unicorns, and adoration in the fandom, while A&E sit on velvet cushions and are being fed grapes…Meanwhile, the disgruntled peasants are sharpening their pitchforks outside*

    Ah, Tuesday morning. Back to work.

    March 29, 2016 at 4:46 pm #320352
    WickedRegal
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    RumplesGirl wrote:

    But then these are probably the same interns who misspelled Neal’s name on Twitter a few times, who tweet nothing but Hook photos and CS videos.

    lol *imagines coalition of CS-minded interns all conspiring to report that all is sunshine, unicorns, and adoration in the fandom, while A&E sit on velvet cushions and are being fed grapes…Meanwhile, the disgruntled peasants are sharpening their pitchforks outside* Ah, Tuesday morning. Back to work.

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    ROFL!!!!

    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    March 29, 2016 at 4:48 pm #320353
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Apparently the last scene being filmed today is a CS one. Everyone prepare yourselves for whatever is coming

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 29, 2016 at 9:12 pm #320408
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    no direct confirmation but the pictures from set suggest…well, I’d say an engagement

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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