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Am I the only one who thought the kiss was fine? Hadn’t everyone already left the funeral by the time Hook showed up? The funeral was over I thought. I mean it happened rather quickly after, but it’s not like they were still putting roses on the coffin when Hook showed up and kissed Emma. I feel like fans are blowing that out of proportion.
[adrotate group="5"]Am I the only one who thought the kiss was fine?
Not just fine, but totally understandable for the characters, given how the situation looked to be resolved until Zeus intervened. (I mean, some situations feel forced with those two, but not that time.)
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I don’t care that they kissed–of course they were going to. Hook did come back from the dead afterall! I care about the way it was presented. Emma finally had to grapple with the fact that her actions led to this–led to someone dying; and while everyone agreed to go to the Underworld, Emma was finally beginning to grasp the severity of those actions.
Instead of Hook showing up right at that moment and denying Emma any sort of emotional understanding and growth (to recognize that her life choices, her flying off the handle, her going to pell mell into the Underworld led to disaster) what the writers COULD have done was give Emma some time at Robin’s coffin, then go home (or literally any other place in SB) and then have Hook show up. The fact that the he shows up right as Emma seems to be on the brink of an emotional breakthrough, and Hook’s arrival denies Emma any sort of self-reflection, is what made my skin crawl. Emma and Hook get off free without having to give any serious consideration to their actions (be it making Hook a dark one, damning everyone to the Underworld, killing Merlin, deciding to “chose love”…) while the location they are in is a very real reminder of the consequences to their actions.
Yes, the funeral is over (though the coffin is sitting right there and there is something to be said about proper time and proper place, especially when one of the characters in question has magic and can literally POOF them someplace more appropriate) but the consequences of the funeral (and Robin’s death) are still on going.
Was the kissing, enthusiasm, ect a proper human response given the life and death circumstances? Sure. Could it have been written better to allow growth, consideration, and to allow consequences to sit with our characters and save the shippyness of it all for a later moment? Yup, absolutely.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I agree pretty much with RG.
The kiss itself wasn’t the problem, it was inevitable that there was going to be a make out session, but the time and place was so inappropriate.
As RG pointed out, Emma was so close to the realisation that her actions have consequences (a lesson Henry needs to learn so very badly) and Hook showing up and everything being okay again because Emma got what SHE wanted really stunts Emma’s character growth (Not that it’s progressed much since season 3).
It was so inappropriate for CS to make out where they did. The trouble is the more you think about it, the worse Emma’s actions are.
1. The funeral had literally just finished when Hook reappeared. Robin’s coffin wasn’t even in the ground when CS decided to make out.
2. It was light when Hook reappeared yet dark when Emma walked into the diner. What the hell were CS doing that took that long? I think CS did more than just kiss and Robin’s coffin was the only flat surface that wouldn’t be wet from the rain. Considering how selfish and self-absorbed Emma has been lately, it wouldn’t surprise me if she and Hook had sex on Robin’s coffin.
3. Regina is heartbroken over Robin’s death. Emma walks into the diner saying she needs to talk to Regina. Two seconds later Hook comes rushing in. Emma couldn’t even give Regina one day to grieve. Was Emma seriously expecting to just go “Regina, just so you know Hook’s back, and here he is now”?
The whole CS kiss was just in poor taste especially given the surroundings.
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Keeper of FelixPeople are not blowing things out of proportion. The captain swan relationship is so problematic. The kiss is just another thing in the long list of horror that is their relationship. The complete ruin it has caused to Emma as a character is unforgivable. She is their character. The writers made Emma up; she is their fairytale character. They should care about what happens to her more then any of the other characters. It is absolutely horrible that they would put her with someone like Hook.
Boy, this tweet speaks louder than words…
https://twitter.com/InkTankGirl/status/738778662456033280
As long as Emma is chained to Hook….everyone else can just be screwed.
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I just don’t understand why the writers would choose that particular place for a reunion. Setting is everything, and in fiction, it always means something, whereas it doesn’t in real life. Maybe…Emma could have gone to the docks, and sat there until nightfall. Then Hook could have shown up. That would have been more appropriate as the docks would be a place connected to Hook and far removed from Robin. And it would have been nice for her to have some time to reflect…on everything.
I just don’t understand why the writers would choose that particular place for a reunion.
I think from the writers perspective, they didn’t have enough time budgeted in the episode (Hook returns at the very end) to get Emma someplace else. And while I understand that somewhat, it shows one of the larger problems of the show in general: poor planning. Had they cut some fluff, condensed some scenes, then they could have had enough time to give Robin a funeral and then have Emma go elsewhere.
The other part of this is, of course, that the writers really don’t see why anyone would dislike the scene (unless you’re just an “angry shipper”–which I am not, I didn’t ship OQ). Adam will acknowledge that some people are upset but his rebuttal is always, “but some people liked it a lot, I’m sorry you didn’t.” So even with proper time allotted, I somewhat doubt that we’d have a change of venue .
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The other part of this is, of course, that the writers really don’t see why anyone would dislike the scene (unless you’re just an “angry shipper”–which I am not, I didn’t ship OQ). Adam will acknowledge that some people are upset but his rebuttal is always, “but some people liked it a lot, I’m sorry you didn’t.” So even with proper time allotted, I somewhat doubt that we’d have a change of venue .
To his critics, Adam replied,
“There’s nothing we cannot abide!
Resolution by macguffin
Or sex on a coffin,
We write it all with great pride!”
The Neal haters are at it again… if anyone has tumblr back me up. Emma was 29 in season 2 if Henry was 11 right? “11 years ago” means 29-11=18 and she was 18 when she met Neal. Of course there are other cannon facts, but as we see A & E are bad at calculations so bothe Emma and Neal were teens or both were adults.
I think I made a very good argument, no?
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