Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

[RumplesGirl]

It’s an intriguing story but the history of this show is that the writers don’t plan out multiseasonal arcs. They plan one arc at a time (and even then look at S5A, where it was clear they changed their mind about 6 episodes in)

[thedarkonedearie]

With game of silence getting the ax, it certainly opens up the door for Neal, if the writers wanted to go that way.  Maybe bring back Zeus.  Who knows.  I personally would love to see Neal.  But I just don’t know how they could incorporate him back on the show on a more regular basis.

[Slurpeez]

The frequent Neal mentions in S5 were ever present, especially for a whole season that basically repeatedly revealed just how toxic the CS relationship is and how Emma’s feelings for Hook have blinded her and caused her to disregard both Neal’s and Merlin’s warnings not to “give into darkness” by trying to save and then resurrect Hook. However, I sadly think this theory might be a case of a fan having better ideas than the writers of OUAT. Side question: is the shows’ version of Zeus supposed to be the capricious sort of god from real Greek mythology? His decision to resurrect the pirate seemed pretty capricious to me, especially since Hook was the cause of so much needless heartache.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Side question: is the shows’ version of Zeus supposed to be the capricious sort of god from real Greek mythology? His decision to resurrect the pirate seemed pretty capricious to me, especially since Hook was the cause of so much needless heartache.

Quite possibly. Zeus’ reasoning for bringing Hook back were pretty broad and seemed to stem from “hey, you did me a solid by getting rid of my pesky brother who wanted to take what I think is rightfully mine, so now I’ll do one for you!” It’s so hard to say since Zeus appeared for a grand total of 2 mins and had, maybe, 4 lines of dialogue.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

Slurpeez wrote:

Side question: is the shows’ version of Zeus supposed to be the capricious sort of god from real Greek mythology? His decision to resurrect the pirate seemed pretty capricious to me, especially since Hook was the cause of so much needless heartache.

Quite possibly. Zeus’ reasoning for bringing Hook back were pretty broad and seemed to stem from “hey, you did me a solid by getting rid of my pesky brother who wanted to take what I think is rightfully mine, so now I’ll do one for you!” It’s so hard to say since Zeus appeared for a grand total of 2 mins and had, maybe, 4 lines of dialogue.

Zeus’ divine intervention just leaves me wondering then exactly what fate is in the show. Something feels off. I know “the gods” have been mentioned since season one, but what does it even mean for something to be fated in the show? We can be sure Emma and Neal were destined to meet, fall in love, and have Henry. Is fate simply the will of the Olympian gods in the show’s universe or is there some greater force than that of the gods (as in “The Force” from Star Wars)? I know. My questions are pointless. Sigh.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

I know. My questions are pointless. Sigh.

As the show stands now, yes, they are pointless. But I completely agree that the writers WERE playing with a larger story about fate, destiny, and the SwanFire family of Emma, Neal and Henry. I don’t know what it was, though I still have theories mostly about true love being the ultimate force in the Onceiverse, Emma’s embodiment of said force but how that force can only be truly focused when one has a community/a family (blood or otherwise) surrounding them and that it was ultimately Neal and Henry that ground Emma’s own heroic divinity.

But that whole story that was one elegant circle about two lost kids leaving their homes and then finding it again with each other and their son got tossed out the second the writers decided to kill Neal. It might sprinkle through intermittently in later seasons, but it’s nowhere near as elegant, thoughtful, or powerful as it would have been.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[PriceofMagic]

Neal’s death could’ve worked really well and been a game-changer for the show if the writers had given the proper attention to it and allowed the characters to actually process it and grieve. Had they had an overarching villain (like a slow build over the course of the whole series), Neal’s death would’ve really raised the stakes.

Instead it was forgotten and ignored because it would’ve hurt the believability of CS. If a relationship needs a lot of tweeks to happen to make it work, it wasn’t a good choice to begin with.

All magic comes with a price!

Keeper of Felix

[rainbow2]

Besides those 2 stories that i already posted, im going to post them again, in case people miss them, i will post another story, that rewrites the S3b, Neal went with Emma and Henry on 311.

here is the story that rewrites S3B

http://shepherdinthevalleyofdeath.tumblr.com/tbg2masterlist

and now the other 2 stories:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11977584/1/New-Beginnings

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10887106/1/To-Have-and-To-Hold

[RumplesGirl]

@sciencevsmagic posted this in another thread; it’s a pretty interesting essay.

http://www.onceuponafans.com/news/the-evolution-of-character-underdevelopment-on-once-upon-a-time

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

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