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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • July 4, 2016 at 6:29 pm #325214
    WickedRegal
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    Happy Independence Day To My Fellow American Oncers!!!

    Here’s Whitney Houston singing the National Anthem to celebrate!

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    "If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor

    July 5, 2016 at 7:40 am #325216
    Jiminy’s Journal
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    Linked for Language

    Linked for Language

    https://www.tumblr.com/phoenixwrites/144179213410/well-i-mean-its-no-wonder-if-zeus-ships-captain

    https://www.tumblr.com/girlhitscar/144171100619/game-of-emma-swan

    https://www.tumblr.com/phoenixwrites/144177981170/ironicjif-imagine-one-half-of-your-otp-walking


    Neal would be the one walking into the door.

    http://zoe19blink.tumblr.com/post/146879882365/wicked-chocolatine

    Also someone named an Animal Crossing after the ship (I haven’t been there, yet):

    https://www.tumblr.com/lunarhorizons/144106101146/dreaming-in-swanfire-da-5700-6484-2246

    July 6, 2016 at 5:00 pm #325238
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    All of this!

    For crying out loud, that is what I want to see!

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    July 8, 2016 at 2:50 am #325304
    hjbau
    Participant

    I really don’t think the writers want to do a musical episode at all.

    July 8, 2016 at 5:32 am #325305
    TheWatcher
    Participant

    All of this! For crying out loud, that is what I want to see!

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    I really don’t think the writers want to do a musical episode at all.

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    I think they are willing, but it would take a lot of work. Song writing….fitting it into the plot…would the actors be able to sing, and what kind of style… I understand why they haven’t done it. A lot of things would need to be perfect. I hope they do, but who knows. Does anyone know if the cast have ever sang in other shows or films? I know Colin has, right? Hm…

     

     

    "I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
    Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGIC

    July 8, 2016 at 8:17 am #325309
    RumplesGirl
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    I really don’t think the writers want to do a musical episode at all.

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    I don’t either. For a non-musical show to do a musical episode you have to have incredibly top notch writers. We don’t.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    July 8, 2016 at 9:54 am #325313
    hjbau
    Participant

    Exactly, you have to be a really good writer to write a musical episode. Writing music is just an entirely different thing. I can’t imagine that Eddie and Adam write poetry. They can’t even write a good prophecy. I think they say that they would like to write a musical episode because they know that is what the audience wants to hear, but they really have no desire at all to do so and have no intention of doing so either.

    July 8, 2016 at 10:25 am #325316
    hjbau
    Participant

    Also, there was another post about Neal’s age when Emma got pregnant. Someone using the wanted poster as a way to know his age. That is all just meaningless to me. There is no evidence that Neal is six years older or even three years older, if he lied about his age when he arrived in the real world. There is literally no information known about how old Neal is supposed to be at that time. All that we do know is that he had a job as a security guard and he stole some watches. He was probably at least 18 years old or saying he was 18 years old at the time. As far as i  am concerned, there is no other credible evidence about Neal’s age, everything else is speculation, and therefore head canon.

    What we do know is, as i have said, that their relationship as shown on the actual show was one of equals. Neal did not corrupt Emma or bring her down into a life of crime. That did not happen. He actually does the opposite. He wants them to stop being criminals and make a home together. As far as i am concerned, Emma and Neal are the same age until proven otherwise in canon. Though, i think, in the end, it does not matter at all.

    July 8, 2016 at 11:36 am #325317
    Slurpeez
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    Also, there was another post about Neal’s age when Emma got pregnant. Someone using the wanted poster as a way to know his age. That is all just meaningless to me. There is no evidence that Neal is six years older or even three years older, if he lied about his age when he arrived in the real world. There is literally no information known about how old Neal is supposed to be at that time. All that we do know is that he had a job as a security guard and he stole some watches. He was probably at least 18 years old or saying he was 18 years old at the time. As far as i am concerned, there is no other credible evidence about Neal’s age, everything else is speculation, and therefore head canon. What we do know is, as i have said, that their relationship as shown on the actual show was one of equals. Neal did not corrupt Emma or bring her down into a life of crime. That did not happen. He actually does the opposite. He wants them to stop being criminals and make a home together. As far as i am concerned, Emma and Neal are the same age until proven otherwise in canon. Though, i think, in the end, it does not matter at all.

    It’s fruitless to debate Neal’s wanted poster with his critics. We know for sure that Baelfire lied about his identity when he got to A Land Without Magic since “Neal Cassidy” isn’t even his real name. He certainly wasn’t born in New Jersey in 1977. Moreover, Neal wasn’t some lecherous guy who had a history of preying on young women. Emma and Neal were just street kids who were trying to survive and who found comfort in one another in a stolen car. That it turned into a sexual relationship really isn’t surprising, given that they really loved each other deeply and regarded each other as family. Emma and Neal’s relationship was innocent, mutual, and incredibly sweet and loving. They were each others’ first and true love, both physically and emotionally speaking. Neal wanted to settle down with Emma, as he told Belle that the swan necklace he gave Emma was supposed to represent their lives together.

    What is important is that they truly loved each other (which they certainly did). Adolescence is really a modern concept, and prior to about 1930, it was the norm for Western young men and women get married before the age of about 20. Having spent his first 14 years in the EF, Baelfire’s frame of reference would have been entirely different from that of the average American teenage boy in the 21st century. Bae would have been drafted into the army at age 14 had his father not intervened, and if he’d survived, he might have been married by age 16 and a father by age 17. If Bae and Emma had met and fallen in love the Enchanted Forest, they probably would have gotten married and had kids as teenagers, as Cinderella and her prince did in 1×4.

    As has been stated here, Adam and Eddy also cannot do math, since Emma said 1×4 that she was 18 when she had Henry, but supposedly he was already 10 when he showed up on her 28th birthday in 2011. (Apparently, they forgot it takes usually 9 months to have a baby). It also just occurred to me that Emma in 2011 wouldn’t have even known when her exact birthday was, since she thought she was abandoned by the side of a highway, and there was no way for her to trace her birth records. It’s not like she remembered being born in the Enchanted Forest, and Emma had no birth certificate. All she had was the blanket with her name embroidered on it.

    I also think Neal’s critics are just going off of the real age of the actors and forget that Neal and Emma were supposed to be teenagers in the episode Tallahassee (J-Mo is very youthful, but she certainly doesn’t look 17, and neither does MRJ look that young anymore). Also, it’s very obvious by now that Hook fans just love to tear down Neal to prop up their beloved Hook, whom we know in show canon has a history of getting women drunk to sleep with him. I recall when many CSers used to argue that Neal offering to get Emma “a drink” meant that he gave her alcohol. Then 3×22 confirmed that the drink Neal got Emma was actually just coffee, a non-alcoholic beverage. So, tell me again, which guy smells most like a cod fish? Of course, it’s the womanizing, entitled pirate whose self-declared tactic was to get women so drunk they’d fail to resist his “charms” below deck.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    July 8, 2016 at 12:30 pm #325318
    rainbow2
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    MRJ meet a ouat fan that went to see his play and wanted to meet him, she already meet in June Lana, Sean, Bex and Victoria at some con.

    https://twitter.com/WickedEvilRegal/status/751185526573658116

    https://twitter.com/WickedEvilRegal/status/751254235073961985

    https://twitter.com/WickedEvilRegal/status/751236536235155456

    https://twitter.com/MRaymondJames/status/751264111908958208

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