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Here’s another article from Screwball Ninja about Emma’s drastic wardrobe change. She made the interesting point that the only time Emma has worn a braid in her hair was in the Wish World and then again when she accepted Hook’s proposal for the first time. From the article:
When Emma wears the same braid style in Storybrooke she’s making a direct visual callback to Wish!Emma– making the audience think that Emma is either “fake” or meek by association. If this isn’t done on purpose, it’s a mistake.
Hmmmm…I don’t know what to think! I mean we all know this Emma is acting and looking very different, but she’s also set to marry the guy she changed drastically for, so I don’t know what to think!
[adrotate group="5"]"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
This is a very interesting read from Kiki (a favorite analyst long absent from our threads) that I figured some might like to read given some recent spoilers.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Just because this is now a renewed “safe” zone where I can express my opinions and not get any negative comments back from CS shippers as they have found their “safe” zone in which they would not like to discuss, debate, or otherwise analyze their favorite characters with any kind of criticism (big surprise there). I would like to take the opportunity to say I miss Bae and more importantly I miss who Emma as a character was before Bae’s death. I think the show has done a horrendous job with her and with his death. Season 1-3 Emma was tough, fair, and good. Season 4-6 Emma is weak, self centered, and boring. The only conclusion I can come to from this is that Emma was a better person when Neal/Bae was around. I guess that is the definition of true love is that when we are with that person we become the best version of ourselves not because we want to change for that person but becasue that person makes us want to be the best version of ourselves. Emma was definitely a better version of herself with Neal than she is with Hook. Although I would say that Hook is a better version of himself with Emma. My conclusion, Emma’s true love was Neal and Hook’s true love is Emma. Maybe that is why Emma has been struggling so much the last couple of seasons, she is trying to substitute Hook for her true love and it is just not working.
My conclusion, Emma’s true love was Neal and Hook’s true love is Emma. Maybe that is why Emma has been struggling so much the last couple of seasons, she is trying to substitute Hook for her true love and it is just not working.
Now that is a very interesting take on it. I just think the two loves are different. What she felt for Neal was entirely different than what she feels for Hook. They both have found a way to her heart but in different ways. I think based on the writing, it is fair to say that Neal brought out the good traits in Emma. And now, while I don’t think Hook brings out the worst traits in Emma, I do think she is more infatuated with Hook which has resulted in her coming off as a bit selfish and only caring about him. Although I will point out that Emma was right there for Zelena in this episode and ensured her that Robin would be taken care of like family. SO that was a case where Emma absolutely showed some sympathy toward someone else other than Hook, although I did not see anyone mention this in their reactions. And I’m glad you agree that Hook’s true love is Emma. But there is something about him that has caused Emma to change a bit. But I can’t really blame Hook for this.
But I can’t really blame Hook for this.
Yeah, I don’t blame Hook for this either and I think you are dead on about the infatuation for Emma. Does that really equate to love though. I mean infatuation fades and if there is not a solid foundation underneath the relationship will not last. I think Emma is so scared of loosing someone she cares about again that she is willing to do anything to keep that from happening which unfortunately means throwing others under the bus (choosing to go after Hook instead of waking her parents from a coma to name the most recent one)
Although I will point out that Emma was right there for Zelena in this episode and ensured her that Robin would be taken care of like family. SO that was a case where Emma absolutely showed some sympathy toward someone else other than Hook,
You know what I actually agreed with you until I remembered who she is having sympathy for. She is showing sympathy for the woman who KILLED her son’s FATHER. This is the one person she shouldn’t feel sympathy for and should continue to be angry at. Zelena has made some character development but she is no where near a reformed villain and it was just last season that Zelena was bragging about killing Neal. Do I think she is on a redemption arc, yeah for the most part. I mean it is at least better developed than Hook’s lets’s all just forgive him whenever he makes a mistake redemption, but at the same time Emma, Rumple, and Henry should not be friends with Zelena at this point and time. I guess that goes back to what other posters have called and I totally agree the “hero club” I mean if you are in the “in” group than we forgive everything you do and if you are not well we could care less about you.
Just because this is now a renewed “safe” zone where I can express my opinions and not get any negative comments back from CS shippers as they have found their “safe” zone in which they would not like to discuss, debate, or otherwise analyze their favorite characters with any kind of criticism (big surprise there). I would like to take the opportunity to say I miss Bae and more importantly I miss who Emma as a character was before Bae’s death. I think the show has done a horrendous job with her and with his death. Season 1-3 Emma was tough, fair, and good. Season 4-6 Emma is weak, self centered, and boring. The only conclusion I can come to from this is that Emma was a better person when Neal/Bae was around. I guess that is the definition of true love is that when we are with that person we become the best version of ourselves not because we want to change for that person but becasue that person makes us want to be the best version of ourselves. Emma was definitely a better version of herself with Neal than she is with Hook. Although I would say that Hook is a better version of himself with Emma. My conclusion, Emma’s true love was Neal and Hook’s true love is Emma. Maybe that is why Emma has been struggling so much the last couple of seasons, she is trying to substitute Hook for her true love and it is just not working.
I’d argue that the change happened slowly over the course of S4 and 5A. I think the makeup change we’ve often discussed happened at some point during 4B. I first noticed it in the promo for 4B (the one where she’s standing with the QoD).
You know what I actually agreed with you until I remembered who she is having sympathy for. She is showing sympathy for the woman who KILLED her son’s FATHER. This is the one person she shouldn’t feel sympathy for and should continue to be angry at. Zelena has made some character development but she is no where near a reformed villain and it was just last season that Zelena was bragging about killing Neal. Do I think she is on a redemption arc, yeah for the most part. I mean it is at least better developed than Hook’s lets’s all just forgive him whenever he makes a mistake redemption, but at the same time Emma, Rumple, and Henry should not be friends with Zelena at this point and time. I guess that goes back to what other posters have called and I totally agree the “hero club” I mean if you are in the “in” group than we forgive everything you do and if you are not well we could care less about you.
Yeah this show really does forget Zelena’s crimes. She has done some horrible things. She basically killed Neal. She raped Robin Hood. Honestly, Regina and Emma and Henry should hate her. But we saw Regina and Zelena make up in 5B and if Regina is ok with her (albeit with some animosity), I think since Emma is so close to Regina now that it makes sense that Emma would treat Zelena well as well.
At the very least, Emma is showing that she cares about baby Robin. So nonetheless, she’s showing she cares about someone other than Hook.
Delayed reaction, but Lana’s response to that question about Hook was rough. Especially to the swan queen people. I saw people talking about it on tumblr, but that is the first time i had seen the actual response and it was worse then i thought.
Though, in content, i agree with her. Regina doesn’t like Hook. She never has, which is one of the reasons i don’t get how they keep Regina and Hook and not have Emma around. Though, we don’t know if that is going to happen. It is the same thing all the characters on the show say though. Snow, Charming, Regina, and Henry all want Emma to be happy. They don’t actually like Hook though. In my opinion and based on the fact that they often say they just want Emma to be happy.
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