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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • February 10, 2014 at 9:00 am #244123
    Slurpeez
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    RumplesGirl wrote: with the spoiler pics that came out this morning from Canadgraphs, I think it’s safe to say that overall Hook plays a more minor roll in Emma getting her memories back. It seems to be Emma figuring it out based on going to Neal’s apartment. This gives me some major feels

    You and me both! Remember how the photographers were making such a huge deal about the “emotional” “couple-like” hug between Emma and Hook? Well, turns out what jogs Emma’s memories likely isn’t a true-love kiss after all; it’s probably a visit to Neal’s apartment combined with photographs of Henry, combined with the potion, that restore Emma’s memories. *Believe a lost girl can find her way home*

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    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 10, 2014 at 9:01 am #244124
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    You and me both! Remember how the photographers were making such a huge deal about the “emotional” “couple-like” hug between Emma and Hook? Well, turns out what jogs Emma’s memories likely isn’t a true-love kiss after all; it’s probably a visit to Neal’s apartment combined with photographs of Henry, combined with the potion, that restore Emma’s memories. *Believe a lost girl can find her way home*

    and the dreamcatcher! Can’t forget that!!!!! 🙂 I think the Nealfire apartment scene in 312 is what I am most looking forward to about returning to ONCE in 27 days

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 10, 2014 at 9:17 am #244128
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Let me see if I’ve got this straight. During a half a season in which Emma will explore what home, family and belonging mean to her, she and Henry ended up in NYC , which is connected to Neal, despite having implanted memories. She wakes up at 8:15 to the song “Charley’s Girl” — a song connected to Neal. She goes to his apartment, rediscovers the dreamcatcher, finds pictures of her son, remembers who she is from a magic potion (not Hook’s kiss), rediscovers her parents and where she comes from, and then presumably will be reunited with Neal in 3×14 or 3×15. If I had to guess, I’d still say home is wherever Neal is, and that Hook is simply the catalyst to help her get back to him. After all, Eddy is the one who called Hook a friend for Emma. Hmmm

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    February 10, 2014 at 9:22 am #244129
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    with the spoiler pics that came out this morning from Canadgraphs, I think it’s safe to say that overall Hook plays a more minor roll in Emma getting her memories back. It seems to be Emma figuring it out based on going to Neal’s apartment. This gives me some major feels

    That’s a very positive development for this Monday morning and I’m getting some major feels too. After all the anxiety, nerves, and eventually, me just letting it all go because 1. it wasn’t worth getting myself worked up over (especially since we don’t really know anything) and 2. I felt better after reading all the AWESOME posts here, I’m excited to have some concrete positive things to talk about today. YAY for spoiler pics that don’t suck!! 😉

    #HopeforSwanFire


    #MoreBOOMLessGloom

    February 10, 2014 at 9:26 am #244131
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Let me see if I’ve got this straight. During a half a season in which Emma will explore what home, family and belonging mean to her, she and Henry ended up in NYC , which is connected to Neal, despite having implanted memories. She wakes up at 8:15 to the song “Charley’s Girl” — a song connected to Neal. She goes to his apartment, rediscovers the dreamcatcher, finds pictures of her son, remembers who she is from a magic potion (not Hook’s kiss), rediscovers her parents and where she comes from, and then presumably will be reunited with Neal in 3×14 or 3×15. If I had to guess, I’d still say home is wherever Neal is, and that Hook is simply the catalyst to help her get back to him. After all, Eddy is the one who called Hook a friend for Emma. Hmmm

    Interpretation: accepted. 

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    February 10, 2014 at 12:06 pm #244145
    kfchimera
    Participant

    It’s funny how these pictures took so long to surface isn’t it? I mean, what’s going on with getting a few shots that imply Hook’s words or kiss or something triggered Emma, then we see there were some photos of Henry? It’s as I said, for all my doubts as I am trying to look logically at all the stuff, there’s this suspicion on my part of the motives of people giving “reports”.  They hold things back for their own reasons, or for who knows what reason but it has happened before that MRJ was there, filming and NO ONE KNEW.  So if we look at all the evidence we have, we maybe lean one way, but we can’t forget to question the sources, to question why THIS is all the evidence we have.  The unknown unknowns are out there, and they may be singing a very swanfire song, we just don’t know it yet!  A&E aren’t keeping state secrets, but they have been sneaky.  They filmed Broken with MRJ and a handheld camera.  They didn’t announce who he was.  They asked him to come to their offices for this interview by name for this character.  They had big plans.  They made him a regular only after they were willing to spoil his character survived in the EF.  While they could announce he’s leaving the show only after they spoil his character has an unhappy ending Graham style, they also could reveal that he’s not going anywhere either. 

    Reading the interview again from Once upon a Fan, something struck me.  They may be playing fast and loose here.  “Core character” is an inexact term, and if they said a core character is going to die to Matt, and he asked “for reals?” and they said “Yes, none of our regulars are safe.” I could totally see him overlooking a past “core” character like Ruby.  He’s not Keck but he has to follow a bunch of shows even if he actually likes this one or not.  So it’s possible they would intentionally mislead him and yes, they do try to mislead and misdirect fans, because they don’t want to spoil and they do want to have things feel like twists, but they know how their internet fans get.  They have a sense of what things we’re piecing together and what we aren’t.  People say we figure out everything, and we do figure a lot.  Yet they want to have a few surprises.  So I don’t know if anyone called that Emma and Henry would get a memory curse, or that this year in the EF would be wiped from memory.  There’s always context and details that matter so much.

    In the article they talked about needing creative freedom to adjust their story, almost as if they were driving from LA to NY on a car trip. Let’s imagine its more of a ‘tour’ across America and they said they’d be taking us to see Lincoln.  Now some of us are excited it’ll be the memorial in DC.  Others get very excited that it will be the Potato that Looks like Lincoln!  The drivers think, why not please “the people” sitting at the front of the bus, shouting very loud about the potato.  They’ll divert and we’ll see it.  That’s ok, though not my thing, but I’d be aghast to find out that we’re ONLY doing the potato and spending lots of time on it and now not going to DC at all.  This was a story of hope.  To have dialog, not just marketing things, that talks about Neal ‘s second chance, to set up the yearning for it on his part, to make him integral to not just Emma, but Rumple, Regina and Henry from the pilot, an unseen glue between these  main characters stories just as Henry was the visible up-front glue for almost all of them except Rumple?  It says to me they had big plans.  The question is, did they change them, and is the tourist trap all we’re getting, or are they going to say with a big grin, “hang on everyone, that wasn’t Lincoln, NOW we’ll show you Lincoln for real.”   It’ll be much more meaningful if they do it that way, though perhaps a touch awkward for those of us who got caught up arguing the whole time whether the potato was all there’d be, that worried that it really would be or hoped it would.   I wish I weren’t so cynical but I feel like the show has let me down a few times in the writing, but still I’m in the back of the tour bus with you guys, hoping that there’s more to this trip than a potato in a hat and some clothes.   I mean it is a stunning potato, no doubt and really quite a wonder all on its own, but its not what I expected.

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    February 10, 2014 at 1:00 pm #244153
    Josephine
    Participant

    I’m hungry for a baked potato now.  😆

    That was very interesting, KFC.  But I think each individual has to ask themselves do they really believe Adam and Eddy will stick to their original vision.  Remember that they may have planned the Lincoln Memorial since the trip was in the planning stages, but they’ve been interested in seeing that potato since they were kids.  (i.e. Peter Pan is their favorite childhood story).  It might have been their original intention just to make a quick stop off but they might enjoy the neighboring sites and everything else surrounding it and completely forget to go on to the Memorial.  *shakes head* 

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    Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.

    February 10, 2014 at 2:48 pm #244168
    Lauren
    Participant

    Slurpeez108 how is this?


    #BOOM #Swanfire #Always #Pancakes #Haven #Fate

    February 10, 2014 at 2:58 pm #244171
    kfchimera
    Participant

    Jo, that’s where my cynical feeling comes in to think that’s what they’d do.  There’s a neat article with Chris Lowell who played one of two guys in a triangle with Veronica Mars, and he basically says he’s rooting for the other guy “for survival reasons”.  It’s a pretty funny quote, because he’s basically saying it should be a no-brainer that his character is the good guy, but the majority of the fans can’t let go of the “bad boy” who had a rocky history with Veronica.    Sometimes, the story has to go where the fandom has its heart, not where the character’s heart might be if written as being in character.

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    February 10, 2014 at 2:59 pm #244172
    heatherc1275
    Participant

    *throws Jo off the bus trip* 😉

    I know I’m not Slurpeez but that banner is wonderful Lauren! 😀


    #MoreBOOMLessGloom

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