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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • March 10, 2014 at 5:56 pm #251881
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Just caught this. Emma’s body language as she’s spewing that lie….

    @Mickstemp – I can’t see the image you tried to embed.

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 10, 2014 at 5:57 pm #251883
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I embeded the image. So what about her body language, Mick?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 10, 2014 at 6:35 pm #251888
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Her subconscious nervous tick when gazing down at Baelfire’s address to emphasize the validity of her false memory.

    Wow. I literally didn’t catch it at all and had to stare at the image but yeah. Nice.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 10, 2014 at 6:58 pm #251893
    Slurpeez
    Participant

    Mickstemp wrote: Her subconscious nervous tick when gazing down at Baelfire’s address to emphasize the validity of her false memory.

    Wow. I literally didn’t catch it at all and had to stare at the image but yeah. Nice.

    Interesting observation.

    "That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

    March 10, 2014 at 7:14 pm #251897
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Hook does say that he can tell that Emma knows something off—well what if “what’s off” is that everything now is reminding her of Neal and not necessarily the bad stuff. Something is lurking just outside the corner of her mind–that Neal is not a bad guy and that she loves him.

    Too shippy?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 10, 2014 at 7:21 pm #251902
    lunatiger
    Participant

    Catching up with all your posts!!! Squeeling at all the Neal EF screenshots! Gah! I couldn’t even concentrate at work today.

     
    I’ve been able to do a re-watch of the episode. That feeling of dread we were all experiencing over 3 months washed away in an instant! I can’t believe the media hyped up CS so much because it’s seems different then what I was interpreting. Although I keep hearing it was different from what they saw from the screener. Can anyone point out the differences??? Where was the Hook/Charming bonding that I keep hearing about? All I saw was Hook going off solo while Charming was ready to accept Hook into the group? and saying “Here I thought you changed.” Where was the bromance? Or was that it?

     
    Despite seeing mainly Emma and Hook together I think it actually strengthens SF even more. There are just sooo many examples of Emma’s dream for some normality in her life. She was happy, she was content, she had her son, she had a job she liked doing, she had a great apartment (which btw that kind of real estate in Manhattan is at least $500,000, Wow Emma brings in mucho dinero!), the only thing missing was a partner that she can share that with. She saw in Walsh the potential family man that could fit her ideal dream. She even said she loved him and that the 8 months she dated him were real to her, false memories or not. And to be honest Walsh is not exactly smoldering sexy, but he was still a good looking and sweet guy, willing to wait for Emma, help Henry with his homework, can babysit and be a good father figure. These were all the things Emma was looking for in a man and it was represented in Walsh. She almost got engaged to him and even Henry was rooting for him.

     
    What Walsh represents is also shown in Neal. And Neal perfectly fits the mold that Emma wants so badly in her life. And an important thing to note is that he can also deal with the crazy FTL without Emma having to explain her magical issues, because let’s face it she’s always going to have to deal with some crazy in her life. Neal understands our world and FTL more than anyone. He can play video games with Henry one moment and grab a sword and jump into action the next! LOL Just the thought of that scenario makes me laugh, but its true!

     
    (So yeah people can stop hating on Neal for moving on with Tamara because Emma did the same thing, and she confirmed that she liked it and wanted something good after feeling alone for a long time, because she thought she found an ideal man. But it was not meant to be with Walsh. Just like it was not meant to be with Neal and Tamara. Also Emma moved on extremely quickly from Walsh, a guy she supposedly said she loved like 5 minutes ago. Just like Neal moved on from Tamara quickly after she SHOT him. Would’ve liked some more shock reaction from Emma but then again I suspect it was to move the story forward. Just a minor nitpick.)

     

    It was so great to see the old Emma. Her scenes with Henry were wonderful. And they’ve not completely butchered Hook’s pirate persona. Hook was awesome! He had his sass back, his charm, and his swagger. Although his obsession with Emma is a bit much, I have to say. Every scene with them together shows how CS will not work in the long run, however nice it is right now, it is not what Emma longs for and dreams about for her future.

     

    Contrasting wants from Emma and Hook:
    Hook: “Frankly I was bored I had a life to get back to, a pirate’s life.”
    Emma: “You know what I was yesterday? A mother. Until you showed up and started poking holes into what I thought was real. It was like waking up from a dream. A really good dream.”

     

    This scene between them pretty much cements it for me. Although I do feel bad for Hook because he shows more care towards Emma, but he doesn’t really know what Emma truly wants. He knows her tendencies like you would know with your best friend, but her ultimate goal is not on par with his (at least not that we’ve seen so far) As we’ve been saying all along he’s a man of adventure. This was why Milah perfectly fitted the role of his ideal woman and why he was so in love with her. Milah dreamed of going far away, gave up being a domestic housewife and ran off on an adventure, because that’s what she wanted even before she met Hook from the drawings she did. It’s a shame because I really don’t want Hook to change completely for Emma, because that’s his personality, he likes having fun and adventures. Just like in real life, some like being on the road and some like to stay put. It’s not wrong to want those things. But the most important thing is that you have someone that can share the same dream as you. To me Hook and Emma just don’t having anything besides physical attraction. Not trying to bash, just putting it into perspective. I would like to see Hook with someone he’s more compatible with. *cough* fanon Hook/Tink *cough*

     

    PS: I’m still gushing over Neal and Belle’s bonding moment. And then seeing Robin reunited with them both! *Dissolves into a puddle of feels!* that was my fav scene!!!* Robin and Neal almost look like brothers. Both thieves, both survivors, both fathers, both good natured. If only Jamie Chung didn’t have another show to work on, she would’ve been there as well. We would have some great reunion with Mulan/Neal and Mulan/Belle. And they can all be an awesome quartet team! And who’s says Neal and Belle aren’t relevant? They have so many connections with other characters on the show! ABC promo dept can take a hike as far as I’m concerned! 🙂

    March 10, 2014 at 7:29 pm #251905
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Although I keep hearing it was different from what they saw from the screener. Can anyone point out the differences??? Where was the Hook/Charming bonding that I keep hearing about? All I saw was Hook going off solo while Charming was ready to accept Hook into the group? and saying “Here I thought you changed.” Where was the bromance? Or was that it?

    The big one I’m hearing is that they cut the CS hug after Emma gets her memories back. According to Adam, it was never in the script but an acting moment (where the actors just go with what feels right in the moment and then the writers/director/editors decide). But yeah the media really overplayed all of this. There was no, “Hook! you go find Emma!!” from Snowing.

    She even said she loved him and that the 8 months she dated him were real to her, false memories or not. And to be honest Walsh is not exactly smoldering sexy, but he was still a good looking and sweet guy, willing to wait for Emma, help Henry with his homework, can babysit and be a good father figure. These were all the things Emma was looking for in a man and it was represented in Walsh. She almost got engaged to him and even Henry was rooting for him.

    Apart from being an evil monkey, Walsh and Neal were a lot alike.

    did you guys catch him talking about their first date? It was apparently very sassy–with Emma being overly hostile and wanting nothing to do with him, but him winning her over with something sweet.

    Remind you of how Neal and Emma met? Her being a little hostile and belligerent, him winning her over by helping her out with the cops and being sweet?

    (So yeah people can stop hating on Neal for moving on with Tamara because Emma did the same thing, and she confirmed that she liked it and wanted something good after feeling alone for a long time, because she thought she found an ideal man. But it was not meant to be with Walsh. Just like it was not meant to be with Neal and Tamara. Also Emma moved on extremely quickly from Walsh, a guy she supposedly said she loved like 5 minutes ago. Just like Neal moved on from Tamara quickly after she SHOT him. Would’ve liked some more shock reaction from Emma but then again I suspect it was to move the story forward. Just a minor nitpick.)

    Can I get a PREACH?!

    It was so great to see the old Emma. Her scenes with Henry were wonderful. And they’ve not completely butchered Hook’s pirate persona. Hook was awesome! He had his sass back, his charm, and his swagger. Although his obsession with Emma is a bit much, I have to say. Every scene with them together shows how CS will not work in the long run, however nice it is right now, it is not what Emma longs for and dreams about for her future.

    YES!! This is what I *do* love about Hook. He’s saucy and sassy and A PIRATE. That’s the Hook I want on my TV. But a woobified love interest with no spice.

    And every interaction with them, both cursed and non cursed, showed that they want two totally different things out of life.

    Contrasting wants from Emma and Hook: Hook: “Frankly I was bored I had a life to get back to, a pirate’s life.” Emma: “You know what I was yesterday? A mother. Until you showed up and started poking holes into what I thought was real. It was like waking up from a dream. A really good dream.”

    Another PREACH

    Robin and Neal almost look like brothers. Both thieves, both survivors, both fathers, both good natured.

    YEEEEEEEEEES. FireHood  = new BROTP!

     

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 10, 2014 at 7:30 pm #251906
    Lauren
    Participant

    made a pretty hope you like


    #BOOM #Swanfire #Always #Pancakes #Haven #Fate

    March 10, 2014 at 7:30 pm #251907
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    made a pretty hope you like

    O______________________________O

    My God. I just died.

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 10, 2014 at 7:34 pm #251908
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    I think this is how we all feel today

    X

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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