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Emma + Baelfire = Swanfire

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  • March 27, 2014 at 8:43 am #256037
    Phee
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    I’ve always found it curious with the Henry and the Em names. It really does make a lot of sense that Neal could be the Dorothy character trying to get home to Henry and Em, good thinking, dontstopbelievin. Insomnia FTW. 😉

    And then, like I suggested a few pages back, Emma’s the heart that Zelena really wants, and she’s just gonna use Neal to get to it, because Emma’s heart can’t be taken against her will.

    OMG – yes! Especially after last episode where Hook went off on a long speech about how her heart still works.  It was foreshadowing…

    They based Hook’s line on a Tin Man quote from the movie (and maybe book?) didn’t they? That line bugs me because people saw it as romantic, but, umm, no, it’s not at all romantic to tell someone you’re happy their heart is broken. Anyway, if it turns out it was foreshadowing for Emma being the Tin (wo)Man, that line will end up bugging me a whole lot less.

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    March 27, 2014 at 8:56 am #256040
    RumplesGirl
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    They based Hook’s line on a Tin Man quote from the movie (and maybe book?) didn’t they? That line bugs me because people saw it as romantic, but, umm, no, it’s not at all romantic to tell someone you’re happy their heart is broken. Anyway, if it turns out it was foreshadowing for Emma being the Tin (wo)Man, that line will end up bugging me a whole lot less

    I didn’t think it was romantic either, but I was honestly more troubled by how illogical it was. If something is broken it literally doesn’t work. The two are opposites. So Hook is basically trying to create a moment and the only it made me do is go, “um. Do I need to explain how an object function and the basics of English grammar and speech?”

    GET THEE BEHIND ME DEVIL HAG ZELENA!

    HAHAHAHAHa

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 27, 2014 at 9:03 am #256043
    heatherc1275
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    Interesting theory about Neal being Dorothy and Emma being the Tin Man! That would be quite a twist on the original stories but it makes perfect sense to me too. I guess we’ll know more about this and if we’re on the right track after this weekend’s episode. I like it though!! Insomnia FTW indeed, LOL 😀

    More songs (some from my Christian music collection):

    “Far Away”  -Nickelback (OMG, how did I miss this one in my last list?! I’m the one who first mentioned it about 100 pages ago, LOL)
    “The Lost Get Found”   -Britt Nicole
    “God Gave Me You”  -Dave Barnes (this version is better than the Blake Shelton version!)
    “Overcomer”  -Mandisa
    “Changed”   -Rascal Flatts (mainly a Neal song but it could be for either of them)
    “While I’m Waiting”  -John Waller
    “Broken”  -Lifehouse
    “I’ll Lead You Home”  -Michael W. Smith
    “Courageous”  -Casting Crowns (seriously an awesome song if you think about Neal trying so hard to be a good dad to Henry and take care of his family)
    “For You”   -John Denver
    “Someday”  -LaRue
    “You Won’t See Me Cry”  -Wilson Phillips
    “Soulmate”  -Natasha Bedingfield
    “If You’re Not the One”  -Daniel Bedingfield
    “True Companion”  -Marc Cohn

    I think my eclectic music tastes have really been on display with all the posts about a SF playlist!! I do tend to listen to just about anything with the exception of some country, heavy metal, and rap (mainly because they all give me headaches for various reasons). I think our SF playlist would totally keep me daydreaming at work all day long if we ever really put one together, LOL 😆


    #MoreBOOMLessGloom

    March 27, 2014 at 9:13 am #256046
    heatherc1275
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    Hmmm, I suddenly have a crack theory in my head regarding Emma’s heart. Emma knows that her heart can’t be taken but does the WW actually know that? I bet she doesn’t since she hasn’t been around this group very long and the only two people who could tell her that fact would be Rumple or Snow (neither of whom would offer that info up to an evil stranger). So now I have this crack idea in my head that Zelena takes Neal’s heart in order to get Emma’s heart for whatever master plan she has cooking up and she gets the two of them cornered when she makes her request to Emma: Give me your heart and I’ll return Neal’s to him so Henry can at least have two parents. Emma agrees but only if Z returns Neal’s heart to him first and then says that Z can TAKE her heart for her plan after she saves Neal (has to be that exact wording). Z returns Neal’s heart to him (cue me sobbing because Neal’s emotions will totally overwhelm him watching the woman he loves sacrifice herself to save him) but when she goes to TAKE Emma’s heart from her, it doesn’t come out, just as Emma thought because NO ONE can actually take Emma’s heart from her (especially if she’s sacrificing herself for someone else…just like she did in the EF when she saved Snow and Cora couldn’t take her heart) and when the WW starts freaking out about how she can’t take Emma’s heart, Neal whacks her over the head with a shovel giving them time to get away. 😀

    It might just be a crack theory or just a fun way to whack the WW over the head with a shovel (which is how I feel about her right now, LOL) but hey, it could still work and dang, we’d get ALL kinds of SF feels at the end of it, LOL 😉


    #MoreBOOMLessGloom

    March 27, 2014 at 9:23 am #256047
    Phee
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    Emma knows that her heart can’t be taken but does the WW actually know that? I bet she doesn’t since she hasn’t been around this group very long and the only two people who could tell her that fact would be Rumple or Snow (neither of whom would offer that info up to an evil stranger).

    As long as Zelena asked the right questions, Rumple would have no choice but to tell her, because she has the Dagger. I do like your crack theory about TeamSF getting one over on Zelena though.

    March 27, 2014 at 9:28 am #256049
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    TEAM SF!!!!!!!!!!!!

    heatherc1275 wrote:

    Emma knows that her heart can’t be taken but does the WW actually know that? I bet she doesn’t since she hasn’t been around this group very long and the only two people who could tell her that fact would be Rumple or Snow (neither of whom would offer that info up to an evil stranger).

    As long as Zelena asked the right questions, Rumple would have no choice but to tell her, because she has the Dagger. I do like your crack theory about TeamSF getting one over on Zelena though.

    Makes me wonder if there is anyway for Rumple to fight the power of the dagger.

    But yeah, I do like the idea but so long as she has that dagger…. 🙁

    when the WW starts freaking out about how she can’t take Emma’s heart, Neal whacks her over the head with a shovel giving them time to get away

    This is my favorite bit 🙂

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    March 27, 2014 at 9:32 am #256051
    Phee
    Participant

    Cast iron frying pan ala Tangled please and thank you

    YES! LOL

    March 27, 2014 at 9:34 am #256052
    heatherc1275
    Participant
    heatherc1275 wrote:

    Emma knows that her heart can’t be taken but does the WW actually know that? I bet she doesn’t since she hasn’t been around this group very long and the only two people who could tell her that fact would be Rumple or Snow (neither of whom would offer that info up to an evil stranger).

    As long as Zelena asked the right questions, Rumple would have no choice but to tell her, because she has the Dagger. I do like your crack theory about TeamSF getting one over on Zelena though.

    Thanks! That’s true about Rumple but the villains on this show tend to make some sort of fatal flaw with their plans which usually ends up being their downfall, so I can see her not realizing that Emma’s heart can’t be taken until it’s too late and she gets whacked with the shovel. 😉


    #MoreBOOMLessGloom

    March 27, 2014 at 9:36 am #256053
    heatherc1275
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    Artseediva wrote:

    Cast iron frying pan ala Tangled please and thank you

    YES! LOL

    HA! I guess they’d have to get trapped by Zelena in someone’s kitchen then so Neal could whack her with the frying pan. My head canon has them in that random barn but this can easily be changed to accommodate the use of a frying pan, LOL 😆


    #MoreBOOMLessGloom

    March 27, 2014 at 9:45 am #256054
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    That’s true about Rumple but the villains on this show tend to make some sort of fatal flaw with their plans which usually ends up being their downfall,

    Ah hubris. It gets them in the end.

    I have been wondering if Rumple has any measure of self awareness and free will and is managing to evade Zelena’s mind control. If Zelena thinks she has all the pieces and doesn’t ask the right questions, then it’s possible she goes into battle not fully aware. And then maybe your theory could really play out!!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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