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[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
It’s like a different show, right? How can Rumple and Henry (not even counting Emma) have anything more than a bittersweet ending?
Changed my avatar. A bit small but it’s after midnight and I must go to bed so it will have to do for now.
Keeper of Rumplestiltskin's and Neal's spears and war paint and crystal ball.
Who will still watch? I don’t think I can do it.
I don’t know if I can do it either. I might just read the posts or download it when I have nothing else to watch. But catching it on Sundays is not a priority for me anymore…Not when they ended a character in the worse way possible…
But I don’t think I’ll abandon this board. You guys have been so wonderful! Even if I lose OUAT I don’t wanna lose you guys! *HUGS*
http://cassadydearie.tumblr.com/post/81261775638/emmaswans-swanfire-foreheads ack no!!!!!! Tears!!!!!! Not going to watch this for sure!!!!
true love ’til the end
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Ok sorry.
But that WAS NOT AN APOLOGY FROM HOOK.
I just rewatched the scene
1) Belle agrees to do research
2) Emma gives Hook a look
3) Hook rolls his eyes and says he’ll say
4) Belle says he tried to kill her. Twice
5) Hook says THERE WERE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES
6) Emma “you really know how to charm a girl, don’t you?”
7) Hook. Smirk “sorry.”
that’s it. That’s the big apology?!
UGH. I can’t right now.
true love ’til the end I cant with this either
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I’ve had some time to rethink the episode and I still think it’s terrible writing. I’m really disappointed in the way the writers have handled this episode. If MRJ really wanted to leave the show, there were other ways to write it.
I was very sad, when Rumple died, but his death had so much meaning, and was beautifully written. His arc had come to a close. He saved his family and he had a happy ending because he knew his son would live and be able to find happiness. If Neal had died in a different way I would of still been very sad about this, but I could accept it easier.
Things that could of made this episode better–
1. Having more Neal/Henry scenes prior to this episode—have we even gotten any because besides Manhattan?- I can’t remember–even in Neverland when Neal rescues Henry, he is asleep and doesn’t remember–I feel like Henry hasn’t even gotten a chance to know his father which is terrible
2. Building up CaptainFire before this episode. While I do like CaptainFire it felt a little sudden in this episode–they could of shown Hook being more worried about Neal and they also could of let them have a reconciliation scene in the year back in the EF. ALso, they could of downplayed the love triangle nonsense we got in Neverland–having Hook and Neal put their differences inside to find Henry
3. Having Neal die twice—seriously???? Henry just mourned his father in 2×22 and now he has to mourn him again? If the writers were planning to kill him off they could of had him die in 2×22–given more Rumple/Neal’s scenes in season 2, more Henry scenes in season 2 and having Neal die saving Emma’s life instead of falling though a portal
4. Death could of been saved for the finale-3×22. Neal reunites with Henry in 3×15 and on, they bond, etc. In the end 3x22Neal saves the town , etc–dying a hero or protecting Henry–example witch attempts to hurt Henryto get to Regina–Neal somehow stops her and gets hurt instead.
5. Having Neal enact a dark ritual? I thought he hated magic—surely he would consider all paths and consequences before doing a ritual–he is Rumple’s son. He is not stupid–he knows all magic comes with a price and wouldn’t just blindly do a ritual he knows nothing about
6.Emma separates Neal and Rumple. I know Emma is powerful and all, but really? How would she even know how to do that. She couldn’t even make a fire without help from Regina–felts very plot devicey
There are so many ?? that will also never be answered now. What was Neal’s job in NY? How did Pinnochio know who he was? I feel like this episode left us with many unanswered questions. I also thought a big theme behind the show was Rumple’s journey to find his son and be a better man and be with his family.
Ranisha Pitts wrote: Its just the way he took him out, that upset me they call him dumb, villain all in the same episode. No Henry bonding what so ever. They make him go dark and then kill him. Basically they killed him in EF. There was just no point. I don’t even understand this. I don’t either. So they turned him into some sort of villain, killed him the EF, but made him “alive” inside Rumple (wut) and then had him redie in the woods without ever seeing his son
On what planet has Neal ever been or ever could be counted as a villain? I guess it takes one to know one, Hook. Neal isn’t the one who cast Zelena’s dark curse as a lot of Neal nay-sayers were claiming. Neal died to bring his dad back. Yes, it was dark magic and so it cost him his life. But by that logic, is Snow White a villain too because Snow traded Cora’s life to save the Dark One in 2×16?! NO. Snow White is a HERO. Just as Emma called Neal a hero. Yet how is that enough for Henry to hear secondhand about a father he can’t even remember? It’s not. It’s just plain atrocious that Henry never got to give his dad a proper goodbye.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
I’ve had some time to rethink the episode and I still think it’s terrible writing. I’m really disappointed in the way the writers have handled this episode. If MRJ really wanted to leave the show, there were other ways to write it. I was very sad, when Rumple died, but his death had so much meaning, and was beautifully written. His arc had come to a close. He saved his family and he had a happy ending because he knew his son would live and be able to find happiness. If Neal had died in a different way I would of still been very sad about this, but I could accept it easier.
I was asked earlier if I would rather have Rumple dead and Neal alive. The answer is yes.
Rumple’s death meant something. It was brave and heroic. This was senseless. “oh but we got the witch’s name???!” Um. Okay. Cause this was the ONLY way to do that?!
Neal died to bring his dad back. Yes, it was dark magic and so it cost him his life. But by that logic, is Snow White a villain too because Snow traded Cora’s life to save the Dark One in 3×16?! NO. Snow White is a HERO. Just as Emma called Neal a hero
He was a hero. He was always a hero.
I hate this. I hate this so much.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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