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I’ve had some time to rethink the episode and I still think it’s terrible writing. I’m really disappointed in the way the writers have handled this episode. If MRJ really wanted to leave the show, there were other ways to write it. I was very sad, when Rumple died, but his death had so much meaning, and was beautifully written. His arc had come to a close. He saved his family and he had a happy ending because he knew his son would live and be able to find happiness. If Neal had died in a different way I would of still been very sad about this, but I could accept it easier. Things that could of made this episode better– 1. Having more Neal/Henry scenes prior to this episode—have we even gotten any because besides Manhattan?- I can’t remember–even in Neverland when Neal rescues Henry, he is asleep and doesn’t remember–I feel like Henry hasn’t even gotten a chance to know his father which is terrible 2. Building up CaptainFire before this episode. While I do like CaptainFire it felt a little sudden in this episode–they could of shown Hook being more worried about Neal and they also could of let them have a reconciliation scene in the year back in the EF. ALso, they could of downplayed the love triangle nonsense we got in Neverland–having Hook and Neal put their differences inside to find Henry 3. Having Neal die twice—seriously???? Henry just mourned his father in 2×22 and now he has to mourn him again? If the writers were planning to kill him off they could of had him die in 2×22–given more Rumple/Neal’s scenes in season 2, more Henry scenes in season 2 and having Neal die saving Emma’s life instead of falling though a portal 4. Death could of been saved for the finale-3×22. Neal reunites with Henry in 3×15 and on, they bond, etc. In the end 3x22Neal saves the town , etc–dying a hero or protecting Henry–example witch attempts to hurt Henryto get to Regina–Neal somehow stops her and gets hurt instead. 5. Having Neal enact a dark ritual? I thought he hated magic—surely he would consider all paths and consequences before doing a ritual–he is Rumple’s son. He is not stupid–he knows all magic comes with a price and wouldn’t just blindly do a ritual he knows nothing about 6.Emma separates Neal and Rumple. I know Emma is powerful and all, but really? How would she even know how to do that. She couldn’t even make a fire without help from Regina–felts very plot devicey There are so many ?? that will also never be answered now. What was Neal’s job in NY? How did Pinnochio know who he was? I feel like this episode left us with many unanswered questions. I also thought a big theme behind the show was Rumple’s journey to find his son and be a better man and be with his family.
^^^^ALL OF THIS
What upset everyone the most was HOW it was handled. I can accept Neal’s death if it gave a real meaning and closure and it was built up to his last episode but it wasn’t and it didn’t delivery, only the acting delivered it. And that’s what aggravates me right now. I’ve manage to stop crying and now it’s just have anger steaming from me.
[adrotate group="5"]What upset everyone the most was HOW it was handled. I can accept Neal’s death if it gave a real meaning and closure and it was built up to his last episode but it wasn’t and it didn’t delivery, only the acting delivered it. And that’s what aggravates me right now. I’ve manage to stop crying and now it’s just have anger steaming from me.
All they got was Zelena’s name.
And seriously. Come on. There was NO other way to do this?
She’s wearing all black with green pendant and is super creepy.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I was asked earlier if I would rather have Rumple dead and Neal alive. The answer is yes. Rumple’s death meant something. It was brave and heroic. This was senseless. “oh but we got the witch’s name???!” Um. Okay. Cause this was the ONLY way to do that?!
Honestly, so would I. As much as I love Rumple, like you said RG, his sacrifice was the brave thing to do to save his family. Neal’s death was so pointless. He died to bring back his father. Yet, he only worried about he consequences after? That is so out of character for Neal, who had a wretched life because of the consequences of his FATHER’s poor decision to use dark magic. No one understands the price of magic more than BAELFIRE. For heaven’s sake, the boy’s life was nothing but cruel and miserable with a few fleeting moments of happiness with the Darlings and Emma.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Yes, why not wait for the finale, give him a huge heroic send off, let him reconnect with Henry, make up properly with Hook, explain some of his backstory/plot holes, have a conversation with Emma, whatever. Then let us have the summer to grieve in dignity. Makes. No. Sense. Even if death was necessary. Even if MRJ wanted out.
et, he only worried about he consequences after? That is so out of character for Neal, who is Baelfore, who had a wretched life because of the consequences of his FATHER’s poor decision to use dark magic.
THIS WAS SO OOC!!!!!!!!!!!
For heaven’s sake, the boy’s life was nothing but cruel and miserable with a few fleeting moments of happiness with the Darlings and Emma.
And then he was the price of magic. My god. What is this crap
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"What parent would want THEIR CHILD to sacrifice for THEM? Parents are to sacrifice for the children. How can Rumple live with the guilt?! Or will this fall into a plot hole never to be heard of again?
Yes, why not wait for the finale, give him a huge heroic send off, let him reconnect with Henry, make up properly with Hook, explain some of his backstory/plot holes, have a conversation with Emma, whatever. Then let us have the summer to grieve in dignity. Makes. No. Sense. Even if death was necessary. Even if MRJ wanted out.
THIS.
They couldn’t even be bothered to write it themselves. to give him a REAL sendoff
What parent would want THEIR CHILD to sacrifice for THEM? Parents are to sacrifice for the children. How can Rumple live with the guilt?! Or will this fall into a plot hole never to be heard of again?
I agree.
Rumple can’t get over this. No amount of love from Belle will help.
There is no happiness for him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
Neal: It’s supposed to represent our life together.
Belle: “It was born of true love.”"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Do you think MRJ is leaving on bad terms with Adam and Eddy? Normally, when people have left in the past they try to bring them back–example Graham back in flashbacks. But didn’t they say they wouldn’t include MRJ on the show again? I’m just trying to make sense of such a senseless episode and why they would give a character that is one of their own original creations such a crappy send off.
Even Graham’s death was written better than this.
Neal: It’s supposed to represent our life together.
Belle: “It was born of true love.”True love.
What should have been but now never will…
Do you think MRJ is leaving on bad terms with Adam and Eddy? Normally, when people have left in the past they try to bring them back–example Graham back in flashbacks. But didn’t they say they wouldn’t include MRJ on the show again? I’m just trying to make sense of such a senseless episode and why they would give a character that is one of their own original creations such a crappy send off. Even Graham’s death was written better than this.
Don’t think so. They were tweeting with each other earlier. I think MRJ asked to leave.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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