May 5, 2014 at 11:09 am #266500ilaydaParticipant
This season i really loved where writers taking Regina and Hook’s character they are returning to their trueselves, the people who they were before they lost the people they love, becoming more like a hero than a villain. But i really started to dislike Emma, to be honest she was never my favorite character i always had neutral feelings for her. But lately the selfish decisions she makes for Henry, the way she acts towards Hook and her family made me go a little mad. She can’t decide whether or not Henry will stay in Storybrooke by herself. He has a mom there Regina the woman who took, him raised him, and loved him like her own child, she is the reason why Henry didn’t suffer from wandering around through the foster families, she in all people should appreciate this .And as far as i am concerned Regina has more right to make decisions about Henry’s life than Emma. She raised him for godsake which i think is the real challenge and the difficult part of being a mother. Being a biological mother don’t give you a automatic right to take the kid away. And whether she accept it or not MM and David is her parents her family they love her and care about her she can’t just leave them without telling first. It is like season 1 again when Emma decided to take Henry and run away with him without saying anything to anyone, like she has a right to keep Henry for only herself . I think that is pure selfish. Lastly it really bothers me the way she acts towards Hook ofcourse she doesn’t have to love him or appreciate his love for her and i strongly believe that she is not ready or should be in a relationship shortly after Neal’s dead, but after everything he has done for her and her family, she has to respect him. If you don’t love him fine than tell him in a polite way and stay away from the guy don’t insult him or humiliate him repeatedly and i now there is no room for pride in love but please Hook have some dignity and let her go. By the way everything he said was true that she is afraid of a possible happy future ,he didn’t mean a future with him Emma don’t worry he was talking about the future with your family, and that she wants to go to new york for herself not for Henry. I understand that she grow up alone she isn’t used to be loved but now everything has changed, she needs to accept this , let go of her past and give future a chance . If she decides to turn her back to all of his its fine this is her life afterall but she has to think about the feelings of the people who loves her and she shouldn’t include Henry to her future plans without consulting him and Regina . I am sorry for this long post but i was so annoyed with Emma’s attitude at last night’s show that i felt like i have to write my feelings in here before i explode[adrotate group="5"]May 7, 2014 at 12:33 pm #267208vilyaParticipant
Yeah I agree. All the lying and hiding it just seems ridiculous after all that they have been though…and then to sit and buddy up to Regina and finally be friends with her, just to be planning behind her back to take Henry away..Yeah she has definitely made me mad this seasonMay 7, 2014 at 1:44 pm #267235Jenna_BParticipant
I get the whole ‘Emma’s been through a lot, abandonment issues’ etc..but really they ALL have been through a lot and have abandonment issues so – to be blunt – It’s time for Emma to suck it up and grow up. Her arguments and issues are wearing thinner the more backstory we get on other characters. I think a lot of her behavior in the last few episodes has been uncalled for. You push people away enough and youre going to be right that everyone leaves because they are eventually going to give up.May 7, 2014 at 3:03 pm #267250Bo-PeepsParticipant
To be even more blunt…Emma could use a healthy and affectionate (pirate) boot to the behind, followed by a “yo, MOM” double-clunk on the head with Henry’s book.
***Always in search of a good flock***May 7, 2014 at 3:14 pm #267253koffeegirlParticipant
Honestly, I think at the end of the finale this won’t be an issue and that Emma will realize HOME is with her family.
However, pretending the finale wasn’t going to happen I think Henry would decide to stay in Storybrooke and Emma would realize she would either move to New York alone and have to visit him. Henry did say he wanted to live with Regina half the time and Emma half the time. It if he had to choose I think he would choose to live in SB while visiting Emma. It’s not just Regina that he would want to be with but also, the Charmings and friends as well. Remember, Henry grew up in SB-so it is his home. I think even the Charmings would be supportive of Henry staying if that’s what he wanted to do. Unless Emma plans to FORCE Henry to go back which would mean Henry would only run away and I could imagine Regina and the Charmings would not let that slide.
So I think Emma would either find herself stuck into staying in SB or moving to NYC alone and only getting to see Henry occasionally–but honestly, after the finale I don’t think this will be an issue at all and Emma will want to stay in Storybrooke. Don’t worry, by the season finale Emma will be happy to stay in SB:) Also, Emma has really regressed from the end of 311 where she wanted everyone to go back to EF together…but I guess, Adam and Eddy want her to stay on her journey of accepting who she is:)May 7, 2014 at 5:25 pm #267274MyrilParticipant
I get your frustration about Emma’s behavior, and I am not happy about how they’re writing Emma at the moment myself, but different reasons, more that the writers fail to show where she is coming from, where her feelings and reactions are coming from.
If it is any alike what we know from the fake memories everyone had or got with the first Dark Curse, then Emma (and Henry) have now two sets of memories, what really happened and the fake memories. They never made that much of a point in their writing, which I think is a failure, but it was told they have both memories. Think they didn’t say if it is the same now for Emma, but it would makes sense. It means a part of her is the memory of giving up her son for good, and living a rather lonely life of a single working woman then, though she managed to make a living, and a part of Emma remembers to have raised Henry herself, a single mother managing her life with a kid and making a living, a less lonely, more emotionally satisfying live than Emma actually had. Can understand she wants what she had in New York back, although she never will get it back like that. But these memories and the real year she had with Henry in New York is pretty much the best time she had in all of her life, besides maybe the time she had with Neal over 10 years ago, (but then he left her without any explanation, and Emma went to prison, so probably not a time she likes the remember).
Emma knows pretty much nothing else than abandonment. For 28 years she had to wonder why her parents left her, and you don’t get over that in just a few months, after just some hugs and lovely words. Her first foster parents abandoned her for their own blood child. Neal abandoned for whatever reason. Right, Emma knows now why most things happened the way they happened but that doesn’t make the feelings go away.
What abandonment issue have her parents to struggle with? Snow lost her mother early, yes, when she was a teenager, but she had a loving father and mother in her childhood. David parents might have given up his twin brother, but he stayed with them, loving parents. They have not suffered any childhood trauma alike Emma. Regina might have had a crappy, narcissistic mother and a weak father, but she wasn’t abandoned either. Neal had a loving father as child, though a mother who probably didn’t care much, his mother left, his father became the Dark One, but at least as child he had a father, and he knew what happened to him, different from Emma. Nevertheless could Neal name as someone who knows something about abandonment, and Rumple, those two might have a bit of abandonment issues as well, but not Emma’s parents, not Regina.
Not saying Emma had a tougher time, but it took Regina a lot longer to start getting over some things. It’s confusing, I know, but since Henry showed up at Emma’s doorstep and where we are now in the presence of Storybrooke maybe a year and half might have gone by, and most of the time Emma spend with fake memories with Henry alone in New York. Regina had more than 30 years with knowing a lot more to suck it up and grow up.
What reason have her parents, Snow and David given Emma to stay with them, did they really made her feel at home with them? We had a great moment with Snow and Emma when in the nursery, when they were looking for a way back from the EF to Storybrooke some weeks or months ago, but since then Snow had growing problems to connect, and that is not just a problem on Emma’s side, I see Snow as much as responsible. Yup, it was taken away from Snow to raise her daughter, and that Snow recently seemed so little bothered how her daughter was doing can be somewhat explained with being pregnant. Snow snapped at Emma for still not feeling totally happy family with her and David and thinking about living with Henry in New York after she had saved just again her parents and the Enchanted Forest folks from some evil, showing how little Snow understands her daughter’s feelings and situation.
The way Snow and Charming were portrayed in this 3B season either the writers failed in showing that they cared about Emma and genuinely were interested in her as their daughter and not just as the savior, or the writers actually mean them to be as ignorant has they came across. I even defended them for first seeing that some things were set up when returning to the Enchanted Forest, as leaders they had to. But besides David indirectly admitting, that he feels like they failed Emma (creating angst to fail his second child as much) there was not much indication, that Snow and Charming even though of looking for a ways to get back to Emma and Henry or Emma and Henry back to them. Does anyone think David or Snow wouldn’t have started immediately to look for ways against all odds even if they had been separated from each other? But their daughter again had to life without them. Or in other words: Parental love is less true than romantic love, at least that is what I get from this season so far, exception special super snowflake Henry and his two mothers.
Yes, Emma pushes people away and is a runner, but that is, because it gives her the sad comfort of feeling at least in control of her life, of leaving before she is left.
And why should Emma care that Regina is Henry’s mother as well? Does Regina really care that Henry has two mothers? Of course it is not really thought through by Emma, she is reacting emotionally, falling back into her runner habits. As Regina had no problems to consider leaving with Henry while Storybrooke and everyone there would have been destroyed before the end of season 02, and then conveniently wiped Henry’s memory so no one besides her would remember she thought of doing it – guess that worked even on many in the audience.
I am not saying Emma has been through more than others, is worse off or more to feel sorry for, but neither should she been given less leeway than others.
Yes, maybe Emma will feel at the end of this season a bit more that home is with her family. But as well I hope, that her family gets over mostly seeing her as the hero and savior and starts seeing her as her. Everyone has to do some work here and change.
¯\_(?????? ?)_/¯May 8, 2014 at 5:58 am #267451nonnieParticipant
I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND EMMA’s desire to run away to NYC. I think you have to have a whole slew of relatives you would rather do without to understand her feelings. I think once Emma returns from the past she will have a better understanding of FAMILY DYNAMICS. As an audience we see the whole story but EMMA is in the dark about a lot, she only knows what she has been told; seeing life before her existence should bring her up to speed.
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