December 25, 2012 at 4:46 am #166228PheeParticipant
@Faux Pax wrote:
Is it just me or does it fit in nicely with Tallahassee? Tallahassee was about the life they wanted and Manhattan will be about the life they actually got. Both very different.
Love that![adrotate group="5"]December 25, 2012 at 5:14 am #166231faux paxParticipant
Thanks!December 25, 2012 at 5:37 am #166233sarah_tnParticipantDecember 25, 2012 at 12:12 pm #166240craxyfoxParticipant
I agree with Sarah_TN 😆December 25, 2012 at 3:47 pm #166241gypsyParticipant
I really don’t want Emma together with Hook.
And, imo, I don’t see it happening.
No offense to those fans who are all for it……that’s just how I feel 🙂December 25, 2012 at 4:37 pm #166242PriceofMagicParticipant
I wouldn’t mind Emma with Hook but I don’t think it will last.
Hook doesn’t seem the type to settle down into a permenant long-term relationship. As he said to Rumple in the Crocodile “I’ve had many a man’s wife”.
Also, Henry may work at splitting Hook and Emma up because he’d want Emma back with his father.
Finally, Hook doesn’t seem the most child friendly of people. When he hooked up with Milah, he took her away from her family rather than offer to bring Bae along too. I don’t think Hook likes children so Henry may just be a nuisance to him.
All magic comes with a price!Keeper of FelixDecember 25, 2012 at 4:41 pm #166243hannah97Participant
Yeah, I really don’t understand why people want Hook and Emma together. Yes, he’s good-looking but the guy is really evil. He’s been plotting his revenge for hundreds of years, he’s murdered, and he’s double crossed pretty much everyone he’s ever worked with. If that doesn’t tell you that the guy is bad news I don’t know what will.December 25, 2012 at 4:55 pm #166245oncewatcherParticipant
Yeah, I really don’t understand why people want Hook and Emma together. Yes, he’s good-looking but the guy is really evil. He’s been plotting his revenge for hundreds of years, he’s murdered, and he’s double crossed pretty much everyone he’s ever worked with. If that doesn’t tell you that the guy is bad news I don’t know what will.
Chemistry. The Buzzsugar poll was right. The sexual tension there is really good. There’s more a potential for drama. There’s just more potential there all the way around. Those attributes just aren’t there with Neal. And honestly, shallow as I know it probably sounds, I’ll be blunt. Colin O’Donoghue is a looker. Cute as a button. A good ratings getter. The other guy just isn’t much to look at and sad as I know it is, appearance has everything to do with how fans will relate to what they do with this.
More cold, hard truth: Neal and Emma are too innocent. It’s sweet yes, but where push comes to shove, when put into action, it’s not realistically practical at the point of application. That’s another reason why for the sake of the show, I think putting Emma with Neal would be cute & sweet, but the excitement over that will fizzle quickly. That innocense will soon equate to booring. Whether for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons, the truth is that some things work better in theory, than in reality. The writers can do a lot with Emma and Hook. They now have a back-story and with appearance, drama, tension, and Hook’s personality, there’s enough there to stand their story up, and to keep the audience interested for the long-haul. Neal and Emma have a back-story, but that’s the only place where their tension is. The strong personality isn’t there. The attribute of appearance isn’t there. There’s just not enough there for the writers to draw from for long-term usage.
Right now, there’s another poll on Wetpaint. I think these factors are playing into why there’s such a larger favor toward Hook, than Neal.December 25, 2012 at 5:43 pm #166248faux paxParticipant
know a lot of people want to see Emma and Captain Hook get together. I get that. Jennifer’s hot. Collin’s hot. And a lot of fans want them to have hot monkey sex together so they can live vicariously through the characters. I get that too.
Sure they may play this dynamic up for a while and I’m fine with that, but I can’t see Captain Swan being endgame and it’s mostly for one reason: Hook is too caught up in his revenge against Rumple.
Let’s not fight over whether or not Millah was his true love or if she deserved to die; my personal views on that are for another post (my answers are yes and no, respectively). But whatever you think, the truth is that her death is still driving him. Getting revenge on Rumple is the most important thing in his mind.
With the kind of closed off person Emma has become, she needs to come first in a relationship. I’m not trying to make her to be needy or diva-ish. It’s just that for too long she hasn’t come first to anyone—at least as far as she could tell. She’s just now beginning to see that her parents giving her up wasn’t just for the good of everyone…they were thinking about her too, and as far as she knows Neal sold her out so he could keep the money himself.
Think about it: if it ever came down to Hook having to decide between killing Rumple and, say, saving Emma’s life, what do you think he would choose? And please, be honest. Right now it would be killing Rumple. Hands down (now I’m not saying this couldn’t change with a bit of character development—it’s just not that way now).
Full disclosure here: I consider myself the queen of the SwanThief ship, but I’m trying not to be biased with this.
The reason it think this her best shot is because Neal was the only one of them (that’s still alive) to put Emma first. Yes I did actually see the entire episode, thank you very much, I do know he sold her out. But let’s look at what happened before that.
In the scene in the motel room when he’s talking about settling down, you can hear how much he wants it—how scared he is to open himself enough to her for her to say no. As they plan more and more about Tallahassee and exchange the “L” words, you can see that this is what he wants more than anything… this is his one shot at happiness.
But later when Emma is suggesting running away with him to Canada he immediately shoots her down. Why? BECAUSE IT WOULD PUT HER IN DANGER. As much as he wanted Tallahassee, he wanted her safe more. He was going to give up his dreams for her safety.
When he turned her in, it killed him to do it. Whatever he saw in that box to convince him that it was best, whatever made him believe, didn’t change the fact that he still tried to do right by her. Even though she had to go to prison, he was still left her the car and the cash. He could have kept it, but he was thinking about her above himself.December 25, 2012 at 6:29 pm #166249oncewatcherParticipant
If it came to the point of saving Emma’s life, and call me nieve, but I think Hook would choose to save Emma. Here’s why: He too, has an ability to love sacrificially. He has spent his entire existance (in denial) trying to avenge, and I think thereby in the subconscious of his mind, “save” a woman who he can’t accept is dead. He said in FTL that he wouldn’t have left Emma on that Beanstalk. He was telling the truth.
One thing that will really accent the story: Giving Hook the benefit of the doubt. Let his character develop. Let it grow. He’s not so “black-and-white”. If the story lets him evolve; lets him change over time along side the drama that tells his story, I don’t think anybody will be disappointed.
There’s no opportunity for anybody to change where Neal is concerned. He’s not a bad guy, who we can root for while we watch him change (if give an opportunity). Neal is monotone. Hook isn’t.
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