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July 4, 2015 at 11:40 am #305799PriceofMagicParticipant
Just typed feather dress on google to see if there was a more “dark swan” dress and these two seem dark swan like.
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Keeper of FelixJuly 4, 2015 at 11:47 am #305800RumplesGirlKeymasterBoth of those would be better than what they put Emma in. But I’m not surprised at the uninspired look that we’re getting. Eduardo is good (there is no denying that) but lately the costumes have become rather tired and basic. Ursula’s was a confusing disarray of confusion with tons of stuff just tacked on; Cruella’s was literally just a black dress with a coat (though to be fair, rendered in classic Disney form); Mal’s was just a carbon copy of the Jolie movie; Elsa’s outfit was another carbon copy but a cheaper version that fit funny around the bust; Ingrid’s was “pretty” but very drag-eleganza.
The costume budget has likely been slashed over the years (much like the CGI budget) and there are a lot of characters to dress lately so things either get recycled or scaled down.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 4, 2015 at 11:50 am #305801hjbauParticipantBut wasn’t even Elsa’s outfit different at the end of Season 3 as it was in Season 4. Wasn’t Hook’s hook on the wrong hand. I just think that we can’t quite know. I remember that promo commercial where they showed Emma with a sword and Emma protecting Henry from Regina and that really never went anywhere in Season 2. I mean it could be the outfit, but it might not be. We don’t know.
July 4, 2015 at 12:00 pm #305802RumplesGirlKeymasterBut wasn’t even Elsa’s outfit different at the end of Season 3 as it was in Season 4. Wasn’t Hook’s hook on the wrong hand. I just think that we can’t quite know. I remember that promo commercial where they showed Emma with a sword and Emma protecting Henry from Regina and that really never went anywhere in Season 2. I mean it could be the outfit, but it might not be. We don’t know.
Well in both of those cases, they hadn’t cast the actor yet. This is not the case. Jen is clearly Emma and has been for awhile/forever. They didn’t hire out an extra, dress her in something to delineate a Disney role and then cast an actor after the fact. This is something they shot in April/May along with the finale with the actor who will be filling the role. You’re right we cannot know for sure (but again, this isn’t EW’s costume department because the photos are credited to ABC which means ABC took them, so it’s more probable that this is the costume Eduardo designed), but circumstances are totally different in this regard. This is the “first look” at what is to come in the next season, with the already established actor, with the already established storyline.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 4, 2015 at 12:03 pm #305803RumplesGirlKeymasterhey #Oncers — meet the #DarkSwan ! Hope to see ya 9/27 for #OnceUponATime season 5! http://t.co/G1bKy3xwCE
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) July 3, 2015
Adam’s tweet pretty much spells it out. MEET the Dark Swan. This is their Dark Swan. This is how Adam, Eddy, and Eduardo have envisioned her. This is your FIRST LOOK at what is to come this season.
I get it. The costume is….bad….but trying to rationalize in the manner that is happening doesn’t really work in this case.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 4, 2015 at 12:18 pm #305804hjbauParticipantYes, but they always call them a first look. It is different because they do already have Emma, but they still had to do it before Jennifer was off for the summer. They have had months to rethink what they want her to look like. I mean it could be what she looks like, but it also could not. I think i saw that picture with her in the diner a really long time ago.
I am not suggesting that these aren’t ABC shots or anything. They clearly are, but i am just not sure what we can know about how she will be on the show because of this. Emma is the dark one, yeah. I think i knew that when they released that Emma i going to become evil promo so long ago. These first looks are just always so cheesy. I mean they hadn’t even written a script back then or even had their writer weeks.
July 4, 2015 at 2:30 pm #305805WickedRegalParticipantMaybe Eduardo was just exhausted that day, and just put anything together for Dark Swan. Because the Eddie I know, who designed and made all the fierce, elegant Evil Queen Costumes….he wouldn’t normally just throw some leather on a villain, and just say done. Especially if its once in a season type of thing such as Dark Swan!
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July 4, 2015 at 3:09 pm #305807hjbauParticipantI always thought it was possible that Emma wouldn’t really look all that different. Maybe just wear all black. I think the boots are the worst part for me because they are so impractical. The hair is a little weird. Like Rumpel doesn’t dress too strange. He dressed up more when he became the dark one, same is true in the real world. If anything Regina’s outfits have always been the most outlandish.
July 4, 2015 at 4:03 pm #305809RumplesGirlKeymasterI just don’t think it fits “dark Swan” imagery. They put Rumple is crocodile scales because 1) he’s the Croc from PP but also 2) because it matched his “reptilian” (but stylish rock star) nature. Emma’s outfit should be less “military fem bot” and more dark ethereal. It’s not just that she’s the Dark One now; she the Dark Savior. She needs that mythical element—put in flowing black gown that incorporates feathers. Give her a wild blow out and smoky eyes.
If this is the outfit (and honestly, I think it is because they did film something in secret with their actress and knowing, 11 episodes at minimum at ahead of time, where they wanted S5 to go) then it’s a poor costuming choice (but like I said a page back, it’s not the first one…and certainly not the first one lately. Again, I point to Ursula)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"July 4, 2015 at 4:43 pm #305811PriceofMagicParticipantRumple’s dark one outfit was designed to fit in with the Enchanted Forest, and when he was the dark one in Storybrooke he wore a suit, so I can understand that they want Emma’s dark one outfit to have a modern feel to it. However, the outfit she’s in could be so much better than it is. The simplest way to make an “evil” look yet keep it “Emma” would be to take her red jacket combo and make that black or a black leather duster, leather trousers, black boots and maybe a red top to add a bit of colour? At the very least Emma’s dark one outfit should be “sexy” because this show has played with the “evil is sexy” trope before particularly with Regina’s EQ dresses. Emma’s hair should be wild and untamed not in a severe bun.
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