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September 27, 2017 at 10:03 pm #342222MichaelBlocked
The only way the he is our Hook theory works and it ends in a satisfying way is if we see a post curse reunion in 7×02.
I think a variation on this that would be ideal and satisfying would be for Hook and Emma to obtain some kind of magic object that shows them their future of reuniting. That way we know they get their HEA, it’s “an emotional curtain call” for Emma since she and Hook are temporarily separating and she can’t go help Henry because (insert reason), and we get to see the actual Hook from the past 5 seasons going forward.
Why does it have to be magical objet? Why can’t it just be a simple FF post curse at the end of 7×02. Simple as that.
[adrotate group="5"]September 27, 2017 at 10:44 pm #342224ry4christParticipantThe only way the he is our Hook theory works and it ends in a satisfying way is if we see a post curse reunion in 7×02.
I think a variation on this that would be ideal and satisfying would be for Hook and Emma to obtain some kind of magic object that shows them their future of reuniting. That way we know they get their HEA, it’s “an emotional curtain call” for Emma since she and Hook are temporarily separating and she can’t go help Henry because (insert reason), and we get to see the actual Hook from the past 5 seasons going forward.
Why does it have to be magical objet? Why can’t it just be a simple FF post curse at the end of 7×02. Simple as that.
This way Hook and Emma know they’ll be reunited. I think it would be more fun for them to be “in on” the flash forward with the audience.
September 27, 2017 at 10:44 pm #342225TheWatcherParticipantI just watched the interview. I think what Colin means is that, just like this Cinderella, this is a Hook from a different world. But i dont think hes a clone as in he was created by Emma for her to send off to help Henry or whatever. That’s just….that’s just no. And a weak attempt at trying to make Hook heroic for not even doing anything (why not just have Hook actually go do the things himself?)
If Hook turns out to be some kind of clone or whatever, I think that’s just weak. I’d have much rather a new actor playing a new alternate version of Hook just as they have new actors and actresses playing new versions of other characters. The only way that would have worked for me is if they had the other actors playing the alternate versions of themselves. But no.
If this is what is happening, then this is so weak. That would mean A&E are tryin to have their cake and eat it too (telling CS fans that Emma and Hook are off living HEA, but not wanting to turn them away from the show by not having the only one they care about: Hook. So they just keep dangling Colin in the show despite, once again, him not really having any reason to be here. Especially without Emma. So now, if its an “alternate Hook” but its really the same Hook with the added bonus of whatever happens to him wont mean anything to his relationship status.) This is dumb.
I’m all for a New!Hook but I feel this is just a cop out.
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THAT is the story I want for Henry, Hook, Regina, and Rumple. I want a family connection like S1. I don’t want any clones who have no real connection to the story. It has to be Henry’s real family bonds that matter. That is what carries real value and gravitas, not some cheap knock-off version of Hook 2.0.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 27, 2017 at 10:52 pm #342228ry4christParticipantI mean…Hook, prior to the curse happening say to Henry, “You may not have my blood, but I loved your father and I love your mother. We’re family and we’ll get through this together.” *That* is what the story should be.
THAT is the story I want for Henry, Hook, Regina, and Rumple. I want a family connection like S1. I don’t want any clones who have no real connection to the story. It has to be Henry’s real family bonds that matter. That is what carries realy value and gravitas, not some cheap knock-off version of Hook 2.0.
Agree 100% Also, thank you for posting that Sister Act 2 gif Slurpeez! haha
September 27, 2017 at 10:57 pm #342229MichaelBlockedI just watched the interview. I think what Colin means is that, just like this Cinderella, this is a Hook from a different world. But i dont think hes a clone as in he was created by Emma for her to send off to help Henry or whatever. That’s just….that’s just no. And a weak attempt at trying to make Hook heroic for not even doing anything (why not just have Hook actually go do the things himself?) If Hook turns out to be some kind of clone or whatever, I think that’s just weak. I’d have much rather a new actor playing a new alternate version of Hook just as they have new actors and actresses playing new versions of other characters. The only way that would have worked for me is if they had the other actors playing the alternate versions of themselves. But no. If this is what is happening, then this is so weak. That would mean A&E are tryin to have their cake and eat it too (telling CS fans that Emma and Hook are off living HEA, but not wanting to turn them away from the show by not having the only one they care about: Hook. So they just keep dangling Colin in the show despite, once again, him not really having any reason to be here. Especially without Emma. So now, if its an “alternate Hook” but its really the same Hook with the added bonus of whatever happens to him wont mean anything to his relationship status.) This is dumb. I’m all for a New!Hook but I feel this is just a cop out.
I think it is probably not the route they wanted to go on but it’s the one they may have decided on because they want to have their cake and eat it too.
And they can keep the CS fans because as we see in the premiere he very much even if a clone is still Emma’s husband and she is his true love. He is drawn to her and recognizes her even cursed. So I think that’s their way of keeping CS alive in Rogers narrative in present day. And they’ve been very adamant that Rogers is searching for something, he feels a sense of loss. It’s probably Emma and if they have a baby that as well. They’ve also been pretty clear that Rogers is not getting an LI but Regina will. Cause his TL for Emma will always be there and ultimately that’s whom he will be with.
It works cause the person that Rogers at the end of this won’t reunite with is Emma but himself, so JMO doesn’t need to come back. Just have Rogers reintegrate back into our Killian so that he can live his hea with his wife.
September 27, 2017 at 10:58 pm #342230ry4christParticipantI just watched the interview. I think what Colin means is that, just like this Cinderella, this is a Hook from a different world. But i dont think hes a clone as in he was created by Emma for her to send off to help Henry or whatever.
So you think Colin is saying this is a new iteration of Hook, just like Cinderella, but with Hook it’s the same actor? The part that still confuses me though is Colin making it sound like the “alternate version” of Hook – whatever that means – is in HH at the same time as the Hook we know having his HEA with Emma.
September 27, 2017 at 11:04 pm #342231SlurpeezParticipantEveryone should closely re-read what the writers themselves actually said in the EW interview:
Can you tease anything about the cursed versions of your familiar characters?
KITSIS: When we find them in Seattle, they will be under cursed personas.
HOROWITZ: They’re different than the cursed personas we’ve seen before. While it’s Regina that you’ve been with for six seasons, what she is now in Seattle is something different. What it’s allowing us to do is see these same characters in a new way. Also, Hook never had a cursed persona, so this allows us to do something we haven’t done with Hook before.They’re the same characters but being seen in a new way because Regina and Hook were never cursed before. There isn’t anything that tricky going on here. They aren’t new iterations like Cinderella. They’re the same characters as before with new false identities, just like season one.
GOODMAN: And it’s been really fun as we enter in season 7 with these cursed personas, but seeing how we can reflect these characters that people have known and loved underneath, and see the ways that they’re bubbling through, and we’re seeing who they were, but in this new guise.
These are the same characters that people have known and loved underneath just with cursed personas. That’s it. No funny business, no clones, just the same characters we’ve always known but with new identities (i.e. Roni, Rogers, and Weaver, or whatever Rumple is called now).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
September 27, 2017 at 11:10 pm #342232TheWatcherParticipantAnd they can keep the CS fans because as we see in the premiere he very much even if a clone is still Emma’s husband and she is his true love
….So then what happens in the end? The Real Hook is off living his life with Emma and Alt!Hook is also wanting to live his life with Emma….so like in the end he gets like re-absorbed into him or something?
Wouldn’t the easier and more heroic option just have been to send the REAL Hook to help Henry? What about the story would have changed since this Hook has false memories anyway?
Just have Rogers reintegrate back into our Killian so that he can live his hea with his wife.
Oh wow, I was kidding but your actually serious. That sounds horrible and unnecessary. Just have this Hook be a new Hook, with the fact that he looks just like the other Hook be an uncanny coincidence. Don’t have him be a clone. Don’t have him be Emma obsessed. I think the loss hes feeling will probably turn out to be for his mother if this hook turns out to not be our Hook.
I just watched the interview. I think what Colin means is that, just like this Cinderella, this is a Hook from a different world. But i dont think hes a clone as in he was created by Emma for her to send off to help Henry or whatever.
So you think Colin is saying this is a new iteration of Hook, just like Cinderella, but with Hook it’s the same actor? The part that still confuses me though is Colin making it sound like the “alternate version” of Hook – whatever that means – is in HH at the same time as the Hook we know having his HEA with Emma.
Mhmm. I think this is exactly the case. He’s Hook from the new realm just as Cinderella is Cinderella from the new realm. Same character…different variation of the story, I guess. Idk how it works. And if this is so, then yes, Real Hook is frolicking with Emma while her son is apparently in danger. Alt!Hook is the Hook we are dealing with here. And yes, I’m calling him Alt!Hook from now on 🙂
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Can you tease anything about the cursed versions of your familiar characters? KITSIS: When we find them in Seattle, they will be under cursed personas. HOROWITZ: They’re different than the cursed personas we’ve seen before. While it’s Regina that you’ve been with for six seasons, what she is now in Seattle is something different. What it’s allowing us to do is see these same characters in a new way. Also, Hook never had a cursed persona, so this allows us to do something we haven’t done with Hook before.
They’re the same characters but being seen in a new way because Regina and Hook were never cursed before. There isn’t anything that tricky going on here. They aren’t new iterations like Cinderella. They’re the same characters as before with new false identities, just like season one.
GOODMAN: And it’s been really fun as we enter in season 7 with these cursed personas, but seeing how we can reflect these characters that people have known and loved underneath, and see the ways that they’re bubbling through, and we’re seeing who they were, but in this new guise.
These are the same characters that people have known and loved underneath just with cursed personas. That’s it. No funny business, no clones, just the same characters we’ve always known but with new identities (i.e. Roni, Rogers, and Weaver, or whatever Rumple is called now).
You do realize a clone does not erase anything of what they said. A clone of Hook would still be our Hook. Much like in Dr. Who. He would still be the same. Technically he is the same character the audience knows from 5 seasons. He’s got those memories, those experiences, his true love is Emma Swan, he’s her husband. Nothing changes. He is still that guy, he’s just not the real one. He’s a copy of the real one but they’re both the same.
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