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I won’t be satisfied with Belle’s taking him back until he’s proven to her that she can trust him. That’s not going to be easy, and I don’t want it to be easy. But I do want to see it happen.
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I won’t be satisfied with Belle’s taking him back until he’s proven to her that she can trust him. That’s not going to be easy, and I don’t want it to be easy. But I do want to see it happen.
But *how*
This keeps getting said–Rumple has to prove to Belle that she can trust him—but there is no viable solution ever offered. So what is the solution? What is the way you see A and E writing this?
X number of days without magic?
Y number of peasants left alive at the end of 3 weeks?
Z number of proven resistance to power?
I am sorry but I really feel like Adam and Eddy have crossed a line from which they cannot logically bring these two back. It’s all well and good to say that you want to see Rumbelle back together by end of 4/end of 5/end of series but how do write it in a way that is not only sound in logic but in morals, ethics, and doesn’t diminish the characters as they have been presented thus far? Belle puts her faith back in Rumple because gee golly wiz, he said he was sorry, and he broke his curse and he hasn’t threatened anyone in 4 weeks!
30 days without peasant killing or without magic isn’t going to mean diddly when on day 31 Belle is threatened by Villain-With-An-Agenda #4671 and Rumple gets in high dudgeon and seeks out a magical and powerful solution, which is what he has always done.
This isn’t just a case of Rumple sneaking behind Belle’s back and practicing magic on the side like in S2, The Crocodile. This is a case of Rumple gleefully *hurting* people to get what he wants, threatening Belle’s “friends” (fairies and Emma), and not only lying to her but using magic *against* her after everything she has been through from being locked up to having her memories erased.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The most logical way to bring Rumple and Belle back together, in a way that hopefully pleases everyone is for Rumple to sacrifice ALL of his magic to save Belle. I mean sacrifice it in a way he can NEVER gain it back, he’ll be back mortal…and I think seeing Rumple make that sacrifice for her would touch Belle more than anything else Rumple could probably do. All love has a sacrifice….but is Rumple willing to pay it?
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
The most logical way to bring Rumple and Belle back together, in a way that hopefully pleases everyone is for Rumple to sacrifice ALL of his magic to save Belle. I mean sacrifice it in a way he can NEVER gain it back, he’ll be back mortal…and I think seeing Rumple make that sacrifice for her would touch Belle more than anything else Rumple could probably do. All love has a sacrifice….but is Rumple willing to pay it?
Like i said a page back, sacrificing his magic, giving up his curse, does not change the fact that he will forever feel the draw of magic and power. Giving up his curse doesn’t automatically mean that his addiction is broken, cured, reduced, in remission, or any other thing you want to call it. The day after he sacrifices all his magic for Belle, then what? Does he not go looking for a way to get it back? Because that’s not how they’ve written him so far this season. He did give up his power. He gave Belle the real dagger in the Mansion and then…he spotted a hat box. He’ll give up his power and then the next see an enchanted shoe box that will make him a magical genie-god and BOOM. Off the straight and narrow.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Does Rumpel giving up his power even MEAN anything really? He may lose the dark one magic and immortality, but he still has 300 years worth of magical knowledge and an entire CASTLE full of magical items. I don’t think giving up the power of the dagger would be a major setback for him. Cora wasn’t a Dark One and she was powerful enough to apparently combat Rump so I think if he is gives up his magic he can still be tempted by power and all that stuff still and it wont really change much.
Anyway, this is how it will all go down this season:
–Rump brings QOD into SB to help him fnd the Author or sorcerer or whomever
–They betray Rump.
–Some kind of bigger threat arises.
— Rump helps the heroes defeat both the queens and the bigger threat making Belle and co believe he really is good on the inside.
— TLK.
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The writers have said that Rumple is the Big Bad, though. I find it more likely that he would betray the QOD.
Does Rumpel giving up his power even MEAN anything really? He may lose the dark one magic and immortality, but he still has 300 years worth of magical knowledge and an entire CASTLE full of magical items. I don’t think giving up the power of the dagger would be a major setback for him. Cora wasn’t a Dark One and she was powerful enough to apparently combat Rump so I think if he is gives up his magic he can still be tempted by power and all that stuff still and it wont really change much.
Hence, that is why Rumple and Belle need TLK to break the curse and then they need to high-tale it out of SB and permanently resettle in A Land Without Magic, far away from any other magical items and/or atmospheric magic in SB. They need to just get away from all the craziness in SB. It may be home to Emma, but there is nothing really keeping Rumple there besides Belle. If she were to go with him, then I don’t think there would be anything to keep Rumple in town besides Henry, but they don’t seem close, so it wouldn’t really matter. Henry could also possibly visit Rumple wherever he resettled.
Anyway, this is how it will all go down this season:
–Rump brings QOD into SB to help him fnd the Author or sorcerer or whomever
–They betray Rump.
–Some kind of bigger threat arises.
— Rump helps the heroes defeat both the queens and the bigger threat making Belle and co believe he really is good on the inside.
— TLK.
I’d say that is pretty much spot on, but there is a big question mark in my mind surrounding TLK being in the S4 finale. If S4 is the last season, then I’d expect TLK by 4×22. If however, we have a S5, then there will be some setback in which Rumple doesn’t give up his magic and makes yet another wrong decision.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
— Rump helps the heroes defeat both the queens and the bigger threat making Belle and co believe he really is good on the inside.
But why does this make them see that he is really good on the inside? The only reason he’s helping is because he got screwed, not mention that the only reason the QoD are plaguing the town of SB is because Rumple brought them there in the first place.
The writers have said that Rumple is the Big Bad, though. I find it more likely that he would betray the QOD.
And if he betrays the QoD that’s slightly different than what Watcher said above, but it still doesn’t change the fact that he brought them to SB to plague and murder and do whatever to the town of SB in the first place.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Hence, that is why Rumple and Belle need TLK to break the curse and then they need to high-tale it out of SB and permanently resettle in A Land Without Magic, far away from any other magical items and/or atmospheric magic in SB.
The writers will have to do some magical hand waving explanation as to why suddenly TLK works on them in SB when it hasn’t worked this entire time.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The writers have said that Rumple is the Big Bad, though. I find it more likely that he would betray the QOD.
Good point. Rumple might just be using the QoD to help him, after which he plans to double cross them.
The writers will have to do some magical hand waving explanation as to why suddenly TLK works on them in SB when it hasn’t worked this entire time.
I think the reason was given in 4×11 when Belle declared that Rumple’s true love was power, not her. I think that could also explain why TLK stopped working in Skin Deep. Belle exclaimed the kiss was working, which caused Rumple to pull away. Rumple realized what was happening (i.e. his curse was being broken) and stubbornly clung to the magic, thereby choosing it, over Belle. As long as Rumple doesn’t want his curse broken (i.e. chooses his magic over his wife), TLK won’t work in any realm, SB or EF. Rumple must choose love over magic, once and for all, for his curse to be broken. However, I fear it could come too late, or that it might be a farewell kiss, but still I hope for a better outcome.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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