March 20, 2012 at 2:20 am #133980nonnieParticipant
I thought it might be nice to have a ongoing topic so I am planning to post his topic in all of the future episodes. We can post our answers after we see the episode…..
.May 7, 2012 at 3:36 am #145744
This episode had a totally different “flavor” for me tonight than all the episodes for the rest of the season. It was a very pivotal episode where “the game” is concerned and defining some of the rules.
It was the first episode where I have actually felt any sympathy at all for Regina. First in the dream, and then again when she gave up her ring from Daniel. I was surprised how much that small act, even though I didn’t agree with why she gave it up, affected me. I was actually saying “don’t do it” to the TV, twice — when Regina hesitated to give up the ring, and when Jefferson was listening to Regina’s proposition. I was also sad at the thought of Jefferson not remembering, and asking for new memories for himself and Grace. I guess I agree with Grumpy, in that it is in remembering the past that makes each character who they are, and what would happen if all our favorite FT characters erased who they are. Their stories would disappear. What would Alice in Wonderland be without the Mad Hatter?
It is so hard to pick out one thing that is my favorite from this episode tonight. I thought the writing was near epic, so I am definitely excited for the finale. I guess overall my FAVORITE MOMENTS tonight were all the Henry moments — his conversation with Emma at the beginning and end, how all her family was there and she was the saviour. How he believed in her even if she didn’t believe in him. His unwavering devotion to breaking the curse… need I say more?
Least favorite moment had to be finding out that Emma would have to die to break the curse completely. I suppose her presence and her belief will weaken it sufficiently for Mr. Gold to continue searching for Bae outside SB. But realizing that Mr. Gold did what Regina intended — he keeps SW and PC from having a HEA either way. To find Emma and be a family in a land foreign to them where they are not the FT characters they once were, or Emma dies and “shatters” the curse and returns everyone to a FTL in ruins and without Emma. They would never live HEA that way either, would they? All that comes to mind for me is the song, “You’re a Mean One Mr. Grinch…” only change it to Mr. Gold!May 7, 2012 at 4:06 am #145747
I also have to say that I was very disappointed that Jefferson helped Regina. I like him less as a result. We will see what happens next week.May 7, 2012 at 4:15 am #145748Killian JonesParticipant
My favorite moment hands down when Emma came back home after she didn’t abduct Henry and MM basically goes all “Mom” on Emma? That was awesome! Mary Margaret has been showing much more Snow White in her these last couple of episodes.May 7, 2012 at 8:59 am #145766GaultheriaParticipant
I thought the rescue mission didn’t fit with the show’s code of conduct for good guys. The rescue party murdered many enemy soldiers, soldiers who weren’t necessarily bad guys themselves. Even Snow displayed mercy only by giving a soldier a life-threatening head injury rather than by killing him outright. I would have thought that with access to the magical powers of hundreds of fairies, they could have come up with a gentler plan. At the very least, the fairies’ judgement wasn’t clouded by desire for revenge, and they would have had some input into the plan.
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I don’t think we know whether or not the fairies killed all of those soldiers.May 7, 2012 at 12:56 pm #145797elleParticipant
It’s really hard for me to find anything about the episode that I didn’t like. I certainly didn’t like finding out that Emma has to die for the curse to break, but I’m not putting too much stock to that. I have a feeling that it is not true, so I’m not destroyed by the fact.
But other than that, I enjoyed the episode. I’ll admit that the dream scene seemed a bit cheesy at some points, but it served its purpose–it showed how frightened Regina was becoming. I wonder where Mr. Gold is going–back to Fairytale Land? Why? Or is he planning on going to another world? I did love the conversations between Regina and Mr. Gold–they always reveal a lot of the story, yet they open up a pile of questions. I also wonder why Regina didn’t use Belle to force Mr. Gold to help her. She may be saving her for something useful, but I would’ve thought that keeping the curse intact was important to her. Enough to use her resource.
Snow White and Prince Charming were wonderful–I wished there had been more of them. The actors have such great chemistry, and they always manage to convey the longing, love, and frustration they have for each other and of the circumstances around them. The scene where Mary Margaret scolds Emma was also well done, along with the scene between August and Henry. August has become a favorite of mine pretty quickly, and the scene where he shows Henry his arm really made me feel for him
The rescue scene was done well, though I knew it would end in failure. The Evil Queen is not stupid. But the battle, particularly with the Fairies, was enjoyable, and it even seemed threatening, despite the outifts the fairies wear. The scenes with Jefferson were amazing–he’s such a wonderful character. I know people are angry that he helped Regina, but in all honesty, Rumpelstiltskin did worse. He created the whole curse in the first place.
Overall, my favorites were with Jefferson and Regina, and Emma and Henry, particularly the last scene when Emma is practically pleading with Henry. Emma’s been seen to get angry fairly quickly, so it was a nice change, as it was with the last episode, that she is emotionally, crying and fragile, trying to make Henry understand that she can’t be who he wants her to be.May 7, 2012 at 1:10 pm #145799king arthurParticipant
MM so being Emma’s mom, loved it!May 7, 2012 at 1:18 pm #145800Killian JonesParticipant
@King Arthur wrote:
MM so being Emma’s mom, loved it!
It was funny cause up to that point it seemed like a bit of role reversal between them. But this episode & the last has really had the Snow White come out in Mary Margaret she’s just much stronger & as she’s gotten stronger Emma has gotten more vulnerable.May 7, 2012 at 11:54 pm #145886
I don’t think we know whether or not the fairies killed all of those soldiers.
Funny thing, I assumed the fairies’ bombs were some type of sleeping powder. Especially since SW stepped on the one guy who seemed to be trying to get up afterward. I never thought they were dead.
However, it has already been stated that in a war there are always casualties on both sides.
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