April 25, 2012 at 4:06 am #134289
So that’s solved. I guess. Part of me really felt like that wasn’t the real knife. Especially since magic kind of does seem to work in Storybrooke sometimes… At least enough magic to make someone live without a heart and to keep a town stuck in time and forgetful… idk.
And Rumple did seem like he was testing him when they dug it up. As soon as August did something un-Bae-like Rumple was all “AHA!” There was no moment of confusion or surprise. He was looking for it.
So I still have this feeling like it’s not the real knife. Just a dummy one he could use to trick people. But that may not even be necessary. It could still be the real knife as long as he felt confident enough that allowing August to touch it couldn’t control him or that August would attack him with it. Personally though I was expecting August to betray him and kill him with it so it’s weird to me that Rumple really let him have it because it’s dangerous…April 25, 2012 at 4:10 am #143916midnight drearyParticipant
Hmm…interesting theory. I wouldn’t be surprised either. Mr. Gold always has a back-up plan. 😉April 25, 2012 at 11:44 am #143970
I think Gold really thought August was Bae and if it wasn’t the real knife which seems crazy why would Rumpel bury a fake knife months ago in case a person comes and impersonates Bae. He wouldn’t. Rumpel thought August was Bae and did not at first know what was going on when August started waving the knife at him.April 25, 2012 at 2:50 pm #143998SlurpeezParticipant
The knife in episode 19 is certainly real. It doesn’t seem to work, because is no magic in SB, except for Emma. Even though August was unable to use the knife, I’d wager Emma would be able to use it and make it work. Rumpel purposefully came to a land in which there is no magic. He no longer has dark magic and instead has the appearance of a normal man. He only buried the knife when Emma came to town. As Jefferson said in episode 17, Emma brought a precious gift to SB: magic.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal CassidyApril 25, 2012 at 6:31 pm #144031
It’s not crazy. Forgeries are useful–that’s why they exist. So it is possible that Rumple could create a forgery of his knife and put it in a likely enough place so that if something like this ever happened he wouldn’t have to reveal the location of the real knife. Whoever found the dummy would just think it doesn’t work. I’m also thinking of how in some tv shows there are dummy safes in somewhat obvious locations so that if anyone breaks in they find that safe first and whatever is in it instead of finding the better hidden, secondary safe with the real treasure.
I don’t think it’s very likely that that actually happened in this case (as they say, I watch too much TV!). It probably was the real knife. Either way, I still think he purposefully used the knife to test August. It felt, to me, like he didn’t trust August. It felt like he was testing him–either specifically to figure out if he was Bae, or specifically to see what his intentions were for the knife. First Rumple thought August wanted the knife to kill him, then he thought August wanted to destroy it because that’s what Bae would want it for. But he didn’t ask August and August didn’t explain. So all Rumple really knew was that August wanted the knife for some reason. So give him the knife, which he already knows isn’t too dangerous because it won’t work, and find out what August’s real intentions are. I think it’s a good test that a wary, distrustful, cynical person like Rumple would make, you know?April 25, 2012 at 7:05 pm #144039
I meant it seems weird that Rumpel would bury a fake knife months ago not knowing that someone would come in and pretend to be a fake Bae. I am not making sense today so yeah.April 25, 2012 at 8:42 pm #144059
No, I agree. I’m not talking about a specific plan for if Bae showed up looking for the knife. I’m talking about a plan for if ANYONE ever showed up looking for the knife, having learned of it somehow. It’s paranoid but that situation is exactly what happened. Some strange person found out about the knife somehow and came looking for it. He had a drawing and everything.
As for the timing here’s what happened: Emma came, Rumple remembered/figured out everything and knew he had to hide the knife. Which he did. But he couldve gone a step further with the duplicate, fake knife. I dont know if he did do that but some people would. It was just a little idea of mine.April 26, 2012 at 8:32 am #144138surayyaParticipant
I dont know……only because the knife was buried in a very different part of the woods than the Graham/Gold spade scene (very possible he went & dug it up & buried elsewhere I suppose)…… However In the final eps promo, you see Pino??? looking into a big tree (as the camera pulls up & away from ground), then said tree has a part of it blasting out/open & Pino? being thrown off his feet backwards (wide shot).
I think that the tree where Gold was digging looks VERY similar to the blasting open tree- both even have holes/gaps in them & in the pulling up frame of the promo you can see saplings & foliage around the main blasty/hole tree just like the one Gold was digging next to….. Im thinking Gold has ‘planted’ a bunch of stuff he doesnt want others knowing about.April 26, 2012 at 7:54 pm #144188celesstarrParticipant
The question in my mind is…why would Mr. Gold bury a knife that he believed would not have any effect in SB. Maybe in the future its possible for the knife to have its power back…maybe that’s a hidden clue that its possible for them to all go back to FTL…and that one day Mr. Gold will get cursed ro be Rumple again…April 26, 2012 at 8:00 pm #144192
Someone had a theory that maybe Emma who seems to still have some sort of magic might be able to use the knife in the real world to control Rumpel so that is why he hid it. I think that is a good theory.
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