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Zelena isn’t really wicked anymore. She has found love in her daughter Robyn. Regina isn’t evil anymore. She has found love within her family and Henry. Hook isn’t a bad pirate anymore. He has found love with Emma.
Just bc they found love doesnt mean they should not pay for their crimes and before im called bitter shiper, i say, Regina and Hook, i may even close my eyes and say they feel sorry for the things they do, or at least, the show paint them both as regreting some of the things they did, HOWEVER, no Zelena doesn`t feel sorry for the things she done and even gload them, in fact if there were social services in SB, they should totally take the baby from her and jailed her for life, not being rewarded as hero and as deserving of happy ending, when her victims happy ending were cut to a end, because of her.
Look at king george, in jail just bc he is not important to any of the Charming/mills family.Exactly. Why should George be in prison while there are four people who have done the same crimes as he did walking freely?
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Regina and Hook have regretted their past actions. Zelena….ehhh. But King George, he doesn’t regret anything. He’s not trying to be a better person. Come on guys, there’s a huge difference.
Zelena….ehhh. But King George, he doesn’t regret anything. He’s not trying to be a better person
Going out of the thread name, i will say only one last thing about this subject called Zelena, what you described about George, if u take his name and write Zelena is the same, she is not trying to be a better person and she regrets nothing of what she did, if she had any regrets she would not gload and would ask for forgiveness to the family of the persons she killed.
About Hook, i guess we can say if we don`t count Merlin, the people he killed is all in the past, but still should not be brush off like was no big deal, and all because is the past and people are chnaged now, but we all know that based on spoilers will be mention in one one epi and by the end of that same epi, who cares about it, is all done and solved."I offended you with my opinion? Ha, you should hear the ones I keep to myself".
But King George, he doesn’t regret anything. He’s not trying to be a better person.
Well he’s also been given zero room to do so. He’s been locked up in prison by our characters and (out of universe) not part of the narrative for four years. Now I know that’s because he’s a D-list character and not an A or even a B, but if we’re thinking in-universe then what right do any of the characters have to lock someone up because of their crimes when several murderers who have fallen off the wagon in terms of darkness are not.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"thedarkonedearie wrote: But King George, he doesn’t regret anything. He’s not trying to be a better person. Well he’s also been given zero room to do so. He’s been locked up in prison by our characters and (out of universe) not part of the narrative for four years. Now I know that’s because he’s a D-list character and not an A or even a B, but if we’re thinking in-universe then what right do any of the characters have to lock someone up because of their crimes when several murderers who have fallen off the wagon in terms of darkness are not.
Haha yes well they certainly have no right to lock him up for eternity and give others a second chance. But given how much these writers seem to enjoy writing redemption stories, if Alan Dale was able to come back more often, or if they felt they needed him to, I’m sure he wouldn’t be locked up all the time. Keeping him locked away is obviously just an easy way for them to keep him off screen but not kill him.
But this is not a Greek tragedy, it’s a fantasy melodrama. So this episode, by putting the engagement ring and proposal into a single narrative frame, presents the consequences for Hook’s past actions catching up with him as first and foremost a potential impediment to his prospective marriage, which we all know will happen regardless. For me, that’s the main issue. Hook as a character is overdetermined by his ability to “get the girl” — everything else seems to fall by the wayside, including the girl’s other familial relations. This particular focus does Hook’s character no favors.
But we never got Hook saying how worried he is that Emma won’t marry him now bc of what he did to Robert. For all we know, the first thing that pops into his head is in fact how Charming will feel and how awful he himself feels for being the one who actually killed Robert, especially after helping him the whole episode figure out what happened to give David some closure. Nowhere did the show suggest all he cares about is getting the girl. He even lied to Emma for David. I don’t think it’s fair to say he is simply overdetermined to get the girl and doesn’t care about anything else. That was Hook in season 3 and even 4. But I think he has shown countless times that he cares for others. Just this season, he cared about what Henry thought about him. And he saved his life.
You’re right, we don’t know anything about Hook’s emotional state. What I was pointing out is narrative structure, not character feelings. To put it simply, I would have a lot less problems with this turn of events if the proverbial ring didn’t show up in this particular episode. By putting those two things together narratively (prospective engagement and past murder), the writers are framing the two events in relation to each other. And yes, one might say that it’s because it’s more dramatic this way — and that’s precisely what my (and I think some others’ here) critique is about.
Also, for the love of all that is holy, can someone please explain to me where Hook got the money to buy the rock? Does he have a job? Does anyone have a job? How does money circulate into SB? Or does Regina print it? How does produce? Seriously, what is the political economy of this place– because I don’t understand it one bit.
Also, for the love of all that is holy, can someone please explain to me where Hook got the money to buy the rock? Does he have a job? Does anyone have a job? How does money circulate into SB? Or does Regina print it? How does produce? Seriously, what is the political economy of this place– because I don’t understand it one bit.
Your questions are pointless.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Also, for the love of all that is holy, can someone please explain to me where Hook got the money to buy the rock? Does he have a job? Does anyone have a job? How does money circulate into SB? Or does Regina print it? How does produce? Seriously, what is the political economy of this place– because I don’t understand it one bit.
I was wondering the same thing! The ex-pirate has been unemployed for a long time now and sponging off of his girlfriend. He was basically homeless before he got his ship back or moved in with Emma. Why don’t the writers give him a job already? It seems like he’s going to be in it for the long haul, so why not show him providing for his future family? Maybe Hook pawned one of his murder victims’ rings or had some stolen money put aside from when he and his crew acted as highway robbers during the missing year. I suppose we can be thankful that at least Hook didn’t give Emma a ring from one of his many murder victims, as I was fearful he might.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Also, for the love of all that is holy, can someone please explain to me where Hook got the money to buy the rock? Does he have a job? Does anyone have a job? How does money circulate into SB? Or does Regina print it? How does produce? Seriously, what is the political economy of this place– because I don’t understand it one bit.
I was wondering the same thing! The ex-pirate has been unemployed for a long time now and sponging off of his girlfriend. He was basically homeless before he got his ship back or moved in with Emma. Why don’t the writers give him a job already? It seems like he’s going to be in it for the long haul, so why not show him providing for his future family? Maybe Hook pawned one of murder victims’ rings or had some stolen money put aside from when he and his crew acted as highway robbers during the missing year. I suppose we can be thankful that at least Hook didn’t give Emma a ring from one of his many murder victims, as I was fearful he might.
Wasn’t he? He could have killed someone who was about to propose (but it’s okay because it was probably some random dude unrelated to Emma so no one cared about him).
"All your questions are pointless"
Wasn’t he? He could have killed someone who was about to propose (but it’s okay because it was probably some random dude unrelated to Emma so no one cared about him).
Good point. For all we know, Hook may have stolen the engagement ring in the past and stashed it on the Jolly Roger. He may not have paid for it at all but instead taken it at his pirate booty. That’s what pirates do.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
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