February 9, 2012 at 5:34 pm #133678
ive been wrestling from the beginning with how time is passing/not passing in Storybrooke, how they cant remember things and how this whole passage of time thing is working as a whole in this show (have i mentioned this before? probably). i love that it was addressed in The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter, when Graham was like “hey, why cant we remember when we met?”. i liked her answer but it wasnt enough! too many questions! here’s part of the convo from my friend Aaron and I, who talk this show out on a regular basis (this convo was from Nov. 14th. some things have happened since then but many questions still apply):
S– so what i wanna know is what have they been DOING in Storybrooke for the past 28 or whatever years while Emma aged in the real world and all that? i mean, didnt they notice they arent aging? and are these worlds happening at the same time? cause cinderella’s prego in the fairytale world…AND in the real world. so has she been prego for YEARS then?
A– haha! That very well could be true, because Snow had Emma BEFORE the curse came into play…
S– but i mean the curse happened pretty much RIGHT after Emma was born. she got tossed into the real world, and then the curse went down. so then that brought them ALL to the real world (though because we dont know all the details of this time, there could be some loopholes to explain all my questions, maybe). so then Emma is found by the side of the road as a baby, and the rest of them start their lives in Storybrooke……
at least, thats how my mind is processing it thus far
it could be like Narnia
where a few minutes in one world is years in another
only in this one its reversedand the time between emma getting to the real world and the REST of the fairy tale people getting to the real world would be years(in other words, in the minutes between Emma getting tossed into the “real world” and the curse enacting, 28 “real-world” years happened, so Storybrooke started around that time….though that wouldnt be much of a punishment/curse if it started only hours before Emma ends up actually coming to Storybrooke and beginning the end of it all. OR maybe the time between her getting tossed in the real world and the time the Storybrooke people get tossed into the real world is only 18 years, so that when Henry is born, he goes to live in Storybrooke from the moment it “starts”, and they all “suffer” in Storybrooke for 10 years before Emma shows up)
so, the key, itching questions:
*how long has Cinderella been frozen in pregnancy, and how does that fit in with all this?
*could there be some Narnia-esque explanation for how the time is working–for how time passed from the arrival of Emma in the real world to the rest of the characters arriving in the real world?
*are they all arriving in Storybrooke at the same time?February 9, 2012 at 7:48 pm #137144
I think that the characters have been stuck in storybrooke not aging doing about the same thing from day to day, year to year, not exactly the same thing but sort of the mundane existence of life. Henry being in town has effect it because things happened like Snow gave Henry the book.
And i really think that the answer to why don’t they realize that they aren’t aging is simple they just don’t notice, the curse causes them to not notice. Henry noticed, but no one else does.February 10, 2012 at 2:53 am #137156
that just seems too easy to me. it doesnt address, for example, how long Ashley has been pregnant. if shes been pregnant for 10 years or 28 years or whatever, how has no one noticed? yeah they could be in a fog (though i might point out that they have NO indications of such when we first see them. they seem to behave very normally–and the mayor and sheriff we’re all in a tizzy with worry when Henry first showed back up in Storybrooke with Emma…they didnt seem to have been in a fog during the time he was gone, so they were therefore acutely aware of him being missing. if they were aware of that, youd think theyd be aware of a 10 or 28 year pregnancy happening in their town)–and if, as suggested, Henry is the only one who is aware, well then wouldnt HE have noticed more of these things and have brought them up to Emma immediately, to prove something fishy was happening?February 10, 2012 at 3:22 am #137157
Well the mayor is fully aware. She has all of her memories and knows what is going on completely i think. Also Henry was only gone for like half a day and the mayor is not hazy or forgetful about anything so she wouldn’t forget. And i think that they just didn’t notice that Ashley was pregnant for 28 years. It is like they did not age and didn’t notice. They are not aware of the passage of time in any normal way.
And i think Henry is aware completely and did notice. He told Emma that no one can remember their pasts, but Henry isn’t going to know everyone and he is just a kid so he isn’t going to be aware or know a lot of adults. I am surprised that they haven’t talked about his school experience with different students in his class every year because Henry would be the only one aging and all the other kids would be stuck in the same year, but he might just not have any proof. Like there might not be photos and such. And there is a lot of fake information out there like the files about Hansel and Gretel and the pictures of David with Kathryn so it is difficult.
And it is such an insane thing to believe i completely understand why Emma doesn’t. But i do think that it is just that the characters didn’t age for 28 years and just didn’t notice. Henry aged and noticed though and the Queen has her memories, but didn’t age.February 10, 2012 at 3:47 am #137158
I think it could be feasible–I’m not discrediting what you’re saying at all. Honestly, at this point, I don’t think any answer will completely satisfy the itch of wanting to understand this in its entirety. It’s hard for me to just say “well, they just didn’t notice”, though I guess in some way it could be possible, hard as it is to comprehend. I’m looking forward to watching more Storybrooke interactions to see if any more issues come up! Henry’s classmates not aging is mystifying to me. I look forward to seeing how they address that. Ultimately we just need more information!February 12, 2012 at 2:53 pm #137201patriciabParticipant
Loving the ideas of everyone! Maybe this has been discussed, the clock was frozen till Emma arrived. I think setting a timeline would have to come back to the time of the curse and if the clock stopped at the same time. Looking forward to more podcasts!February 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm #137202
It is like their minds just don’t notice. I think that makes sense completely. There is so much that people don’t noticed in real life. It is like there is something wrong with their memories. It is like they have a blind spot in their memories and we really don’t know what it was like in town before Emma came. Now that Emma is in town things seem fairly normal except everyone is rather unhappy, but people still do normal things like go to work and go out on dates and hang out with friends, but before Emma came into town maybe everyone just got up and went to work and had really bad dates and went home. They interacted with Henry and that seems to have woke people up a bit because Archie was telling Henry to not give into his dark side and Mary gave Henry the book, but before Henry it may have been worse.
Like maybe Mary had been going on a really bad date with Dr. Whale every once in awhile for years. It is like there is something wrong with their memories. It is like nothing important happened to them in the last 28 years so there is nothing to notice, no defining characteristics, and they are all just unaware of the passage of time. They have no concept of years gone by and such. That is all different now that Emma is here and time has resumed. I think Ashley is lucky that she can’t remember being nine months pregnant for 28 years. That doesn’t sound like fun.
PS, It is like they are working around the holes in people’s concentration. Like people can’t concentrate on those things because there is something wrong with them.February 13, 2012 at 10:30 pm #137243malchoreParticipant
The citizens of Storybrooke and their lack of notice of the passage of time requires by far a large suspension of disbelief. This is a fantasy TV show and therefore requires suspension of disbelief. Especially when you think of Henry, how he was the only kid to grow up (from a baby to the 10 year old we see today) and no one else around him ages. Henry notices it but everyone else is under the curse so they don’t notice anything. The don’t even notice Henry and his amazing aging properties!
I’m curious about the geographic size of the curse. We’ve seen several kingdomes in fairy tale land; did they all come over with the curse? How big of an area of effect was the curse?
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