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With this switcheroo, or blurring, of Hyde and Jekyll’s roles of good and bad… Could we see the same thing happen with Regina and Evil Queen? I don’t expect a full switcheroo, but a blurring would be interesting. It also could lead both of them to decide to voluntarily re-integrate, that would be I think more interesting then Regina forcing it, or them figuring out a way to kill just the Evil Queen.
The Evil Queen basically originally saw herself as betrayed, and mis-understood, and having such feelings can be normal and even healthy. Along with the pain of loosing a loved-one basically under the direction of another loved one (her mother). Where she went over-board was when she decided what revenge/justice for her looked-like, and the lengths she went to try to obtained it. Maybe the Evil Queen is still that person, but maybe her revenge doesn’t look the same as it did before. Heck, her revenge could be aimed at her ‘better’ half for doing this to them.
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The EQ will likely be reintegrated, and possibly via Newton’s Third Law (see my theory on this episode’s thread).
Keeper of Regina's bravery
I like sierraleone’s thoughts about what is actually the original of a person… and EQ’s evilness is, as you also mention, something that grew from nurture. Young Regina, she was not like that. There is also the shows whole big thing about how “evil isn’t born its made”.. So what is an original persona? The core. Is it the animalistic sides,, acting more on instinct or passion wich are not colored by conformity to society? Or is it the more humane sides to us, like, I think most people would view their core being/original self,, as some of their more kind and loving sides. In that case, I think the idea of the Original you can mean something else entirely.
But in this case, the word “original” is just used to say that Regina, in all that she is in present day Storybrook, is The One the EQ derived from. Regina took the EQ part out of herself, in that case, that makes her the origin of that EQ we now see roaming around Storybrook.
But we are looking at this whole thing in two different ways- 1. way: What I hear you saying is this–The split would have made Two equal versions of Regina. And if it were so, they would be totally split and ones death would have no consequences for the other. Evil Queen would be able to get killed individually, as would Regina. However.. On the version we see on the show, which is the 2. way of looking at it: They are NOT totally split and EQ is still “attached” somehow to Regina, who she derived from. That’s why I say EQ is like a mirror image and in that way not equally as full a person as Regina is. I can see why you have a problem with it, if you stick to the first way of looking at it. But in accepting that the way they are seeing it and telling the story is equally valid, then I can accept that Regina is the “original” and EQ the copy. This notion is not invalid, its not a fallacy, its only different from the version you are presenting.
On the shows version, we now know that the copy cannot be killed individually. That’s why it’s the copy and there is such a thing as what we can then call the original. Which is the Regina that EQ derived from.
Both ways to tell the story can be used, there is no reason why they should not be able to tell it this way. Like I said I don’t see how their version is not valid.
May I just say, I love this conversation, its very interesting.. This is why I love this Forum 😀
But would the first version of telling the story have been more interesting or more true to reality? It’s a possibility, but I don’t know… and we haven’t seen the shows version to the end yet. The version they use on the show I think is interesting because: Well first of all, it’s a brilliant way to bring back EVIL QUEEN in full force and possibly even more deranged then ever before.. and I have missed her so.. the more scenes with her the better and it doesnt destroy Reginas process in any way. And Lana P. gets to act opposite “herself” that’s cool, really great for her. These are the first good things -check! Also I think it is still going to end with Regina reintegrating with her Evil Queen side in some way, thereby telling us what we all obviously know to be true- you cant throw away your past or any wrong doings you’ve done, so accept your inner evil demons- philosophical lesson learned -Check ! In the process of telling us this story, we might see the Charmings, Regina, Emma and Henry-family grow closer together- meaning lots of cute aaaww!… moments- check! One Last good thing in my mind would be the idea that Evil Queen is just a ‘bit’ of the whole person that Regina is, she took that bit out, with the potion, but that bit will only grow back, as Regina said in the clip when talking to Emma. But Evil Queen is still nothing but a story, a mirror image of Regina. She is Reginas past and she doesn’t need to be her future, it depends what story Regina tells the woman in the mirror. So Regina- Ask the woman in the mirror to change her ways… lol.. see what I did there! Whoop Whoop ;D
sierraleone- A blurring of who is the good and who is the bad. That I would also like.. it would be cool as always to see Lana P. portray vulnerability in the Evil Queen and the opposite in Regina and to see if they could present that differently or with new nuances from previously.
Do we think that the EQ could rip out Regina’s heart and/or use it in her own body?
Ooh, interesting! Or vice versa. Regina dies, and they put whatever heart the EQ is running on (the Dragon’s -? In which case why is she still so evil?) back into Regina and in so doing transfer the EQ;s soul with it?
I still think Newton’s third law will play some kind of role in the solution to this conundrum. Maybe it will involve hearts, maybe it won’t.
Keeper of Regina's bravery
Do we think that the EQ could rip out Regina’s heart and/or use it in her own body?
What would she do with her own heart then? Put it in Regina? Why would she do that… Do you think she wants to feel love for others?
Do we think that the EQ could rip out Regina’s heart and/or use it in her own body?
What would she do with her own heart then? Put it in Regina? Why would she do that… Do you think she wants to feel love for others?
I didn’t think she currently had a heart (as Regina was shown crushing it) but maybe she does? It wouldn’t so much be about wanting to love, more about wanting to be the “real” one. Although thinking about it, maybe Regina putting her heart into the EQ would have some sort of balancing effect?
I didn’t think she currently had a heart (as Regina was shown crushing it) but maybe she does? It wouldn’t so much be about wanting to love, more about wanting to be the “real” one. Although thinking about it, maybe Regina putting her heart into the EQ would have some sort of balancing effect?
Ups ! forgot about that. Well its an interesting idea. Hehe! Regina puts her own heart in EQ and she learns to love and EQ and Regina are essentially siamese twins sharing a heart…. but thinking about it, that would be kind of boring. EQ stealing Reginas heart to be the real one…. well I guess that could also happen.. But I still think that Regina dying and whatever leads up to that. Then her coming back to life, somehow now reintergrated with EQ, is whats gonna happen.
Do we think that the EQ could rip out Regina’s heart and/or use it in her own body?
Oh that’s an interesting idea! Would she want to though? The EQ seems perfectly fine being devoid of any meaningful emotion other than villainy
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Do we think that the EQ could rip out Regina’s heart and/or use it in her own body?
Oh that’s an interesting idea! Would she want to though? The EQ seems perfectly fine being devoid of any meaningful emotion other than villainy
Well again, it isn’t about the emotional aspect of it – it is about her continued existence. Would you rather have a heart in your body that could easily be corrupted if you wanted to fill it with darkness and get to live, or to just vanish from existence?
Also, we didn’t see the EQ’s reaction to what has happened to Jekyll and Hyde so it will be interesting to see if she changes her plans at all with the information that Regina’s death will end her existence. Presumably this will mean that a) she has a vested interest in protecting Regina (although I doubt she ever planned to kill her anyway) and b) that she will need to try and ensure her own safety *independent* of Regina (effectively making herself a full person who isn’t dependent on Regina being alive)?
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