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Until the last episode I was confused too. I didn’t get into my favorite character at all in season 4, but know I think I understand what is driving him mad and the reason is simple, cause we all know his drive. He just want his son. He wanted him in the first minute when the seer told him about Bae and he still wants his son after he is gone.
I think resurecting his son would be his favorite option, but he knows that it would be never his Bae. It would a marionette ( a Zombie like David, or the ones Cora and Jafar were using) and not the brave boy he loved so dearly.
My guessing is that he will destroy Storybrook and kill all person in it, to wipe out his past so it can’t haunt him for the future he wants to build. He will have his wife Belle, his grandson Henry and his power to protect his little world that are not more then his family. Rumplestiltskin never cared for the world he just needed all informations and power to find his family, to protect it at all costs. This is the spinners core and will it ever be. The rest of the world even if he like a few in them can go to the purgatory if needed.
I think that Rumple will even go further than that. We (not) know about the deleted Grandpastiltskins moment in season 4 that even Henry wants his cursed memory from NY back, cause their he was happy. I believe that Rumple will give it Henry back with one minor change, so that Henry can be his son. He will try to create his perfect fresh start that he ever wanted.
You know guys that sometimes he is just too weird like asking his son to change 14 again after seeing him not a couple of hundred of years.
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Wow…now THAT is an interesting theory Tiara. If he alters Henry and Belle’s memories that significantly, so they could all be one happy family in New York (Oh look, Henry gets a third mom. And dads…third dad? Nah, Hook doesn’t count…well…sorta…dad…figure…ish.). Of course, his next move will have to be perpetually keeping them young, a power he sort of had in the EF (the ability to rewind Smee). He could make them a year younger every birthday or something, but eventually they’re gonna start wondering what’s going on, just like Henry did in Storybrook.
*is INTRIGUED*
I could see this.
but know I think I understand what is driving him mad and the reason is simple, cause we all know his drive. He just want his son. He wanted him in the first minute when the seer told him about Bae and he still wants his son after he is gone.
Except he hasn’t mentioned Baefire in this at all. In fact, he’s basically over it totally. It has nothing to do with Bae. Trying to bring back his son isn’t “bad” and it’s something Belle would understand. The fact that Rumple is being SO secretive and so “muahahaha” villain means that it probably has nothing to do with his child. It’s just power. All season A and E have said that Rumple is self-serving and selfish. That’s how they see him now. that’s the story they are writing for him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"The fact that Rumple is being SO secretive and so “muahahaha” villain means that it probably has nothing to do with his child. It’s just power. All season A and E have said that Rumple is self-serving and selfish. That’s how they see him now. that’s the story they are writing for him.
Yeah. I have this foreboding feeling that Rumple may be headed for a villain’s ending. When is Robert Carlyle’s contract up? It could be the actor wants out as soon as his contract is up, so he convinced the writers to go full-on dark one so Rumple can go out in one final blaze of glory.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
The fact that Rumple is being SO secretive and so “muahahaha” villain means that it probably has nothing to do with his child. It’s just power. All season A and E have said that Rumple is self-serving and selfish. That’s how they see him now. that’s the story they are writing for him.
Yeah. I have this foreboding feeling that Rumple may be headed for a villain’s ending. When is Robert Carlyle’s contract up? It could be the actor wants out as soon as his contract is up, so he convinced the writers to go full-on dark one so Rumple can go out in one final blaze of glory.
If Bobby wants out of his contract, there is nothing ABC can really do. Bobby can buy himself out. ONCE isn’t the powerhouse it once was for ABC. We all know (pretty much) that S5 is the end. Even if Bobby had a 5 year as was reported back in S1, then getting out a year early, when ABC is already guaranteed syndication…not a big deal
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RG I hope you are wrong, cause if he just wants power over a world than my Rumple I fell in love would be dead.
I really hope that he is trying to get a fresh start with a new son and wife and need power to feel secure enough to protect them. I think that he is not mention bae at all is more proof that he can’t face his loss and want to erase his failure with a replicate. I know it sounds silly and of course it can’t work even when he succeed, but what else should he do? He is too much of a coward to accept that some things can’t be undone.
When he found the hat he was surprised and after he talked with henry on this deleted scene he begun to see what he could do for himslf, for belle and for henry. He said sweet words to henry, about a cloak of regret you have to wear to be strong. Maybe he even meant it back then but we know that rumple isn’t that kind of strong person. He will try the way that heny showed him. He will start new, cause he is a coward, he is shattered, it is his only way for a happy ending in his twisted mind.
He never cared for the world at all and I don’t think that he will start now with this crap.
This time I stick on Jafars words:” It wasn’t the power. It’s always the same story with us sorcerer at the end of the day. It all come back around – the family.”
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I think that he is not mention bae at all is more proof that he can’t face his loss and want to erase his failure with a replicate. I know it sounds silly and of course it can’t work even when he succeed, but what else should he do? He is too much of a coward to accept that some things can’t be undone.
But it’s not that he hasn’t mentioned Nealfire…it’s that when he does it’s “yeah, I lost my son. So what? I get to move on…”
Every time A and E are asked about Rumple and what he is doing A and E NEVER mention Neal, Zelena keeping him hostage, ect…just that he’s a self serving selfish guy who is dangerously addicted to magic.
This time I stick on Jafars words:” It wasn’t the power. It’s always the same story with us sorcerer at the end of the day. It all come back around – the family.”
You mean the family that Jafar ended up killing in cold blood to exact his revenge??? Weird example
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RG it may be wierd but it makes sense to me, it even make sense to me with Jafar. He loved his father and trusted him and as his father that should protected and loved him, killed his unwanted son. The hate was as strong as the love Jafar had for his father This kill and how Jafar did was understandable for me. Jafar told him that he wanted his father killed by one he love as much as he did once, but why did he then not just trick somebody his father already loved into murdering him, because Jafar couldn’t kill his father without be loved by him once. I know … I should visit Archy or maybe one who get the degree not of a curse.
Heros don't get their Happy Ending!
RG it may be wierd but it makes sense to me, it even make sense to me with Jafar. He loved his father and trusted him and as his father that should protected and loved him, killed his unwanted son. The hate was as strong as the love Jafar had for his father This kill and how Jafar did was understandable for me. Jafar told him that he wanted his father killed by one he love as much as he did once, but why did he then not just trick somebody his father already loved into murdering him, because Jafar couldn’t kill his father without be loved by him once. I know … I should visit Archy or maybe one who get the degree not of a curse.
fine. all of that may be true, but you’re sorta forgetting that ONCE isn’t WL and Rumple isn’t Jafar and that I literally have no idea how this relates to Rumple.
According to A and E, he’s self absorbed, self interested, selfish and everything on screen is in service of that. He doesn’t talk about missing Neal, he doens’t talk about being damaged from Zelena, it’s just that he can both Belle and power and he’s going to do that. He wants the power. All of it.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"RG maybe you are right after all what happened since seaason 3. I guess you want to protect me going to much in a character and story that may not exist and thank you for protecting me. But I stay with my theory for a too much hurt person that change the little good thing he has into a twisted mental image that never gonna work even when played out.
I just can’t picture Rumple as a dictater. He is not the typ of being a king, more like somebody who is controlling the king. He is the puppetmaster, who is not seen but make in reality the story.
This theory maybe one like Mama Blue, but I never giving up on that too. 🙂
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