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The much anticipated LGBT ship finally arrived in OUAT: Ruby and Dorothy have true love for each other and even sealed it with a kiss.
How do you feel about OUAT’s choice? Do you think we’ll get anymore from these two? What’s in store for them now? And how did you feel about their love story in general?
[adrotate group="5"]"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I am of so many minds over this that I think it needs bullet pointed…
PRO
–Ruby and Dorothy did have a pretty nice connection. Their walk/talk was a nice moment about how alone they felt WITHOUT it being about their sexuality.
CON
–But every character on this show feels like an outcast at some point and it’s not like they developed true love with the person standing beside them who also felt like an outcast!
CON
–The love stories on this show are becoming tragically under developed with each passing season. It takes more than one walk and talk, one bike ride, one flower, one adventure to know that you’re in true love. Remember when this show used to declare that true love was rare and that’s why it must be fought for?
PRO
–Acceptance by all characters over how Ruby felt without any shock or disgust
CON
–Mulan keeps using gender neutral terminology when discussing the person it was “too late” for her to be with.
PRO
–A long and extended TLK for an LGBT ship
CON
–And now they go off to Forgotten Character Island making this episode feel like it was only to generate buzz, appeal to sensationalism, and appease the LGBT fanbase of OUAT. It’s almost cheap; have an LGBT canon ship but never explore it in the same careful, meaningful, and lengthy way the did for, say, Snowing.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Although I ship Ruby/Mulan more….it would be an injustice if Dorothy never gets to meet Granny, who I’m sure is waiting to give her “the talk”. And I need for them to bring back Aunt Em, and set up a Diner Off with Granny….poor Dorothy and Ruby would be caught in a war between their respective guardians! XD
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn Balor
I found it amusing that Red discovered she belonged with a fiesty, crossbow-wielding lady who is fiercely protective of her canine companions. Reminds me of a certain elderly relative back in Storybrooke!
On a more serious note, there were two serious drawbacks for me. Firstly, it seemed way too rushed. Secondly, Red/Mulan made more sense – to me, anyway. It really seemed like they intended to go with Red Warrior and changed their minds after The Bear King.
What I did like was how they imbued the relationship with a sense of playfulness and tenderness. It was nice to see, given how often LGBT relationships are over-sexualized on TV.
Firstly, it seemed way too rushed. Secondly, Red/Mulan made more sense – to me, anyway. It really seemed like they intended to go with Red Warrior and changed their minds after The Bear King.
It does feel like they set up Mulan Rogue and then got cold feet for some inexplicable reason? Was it Disney??
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Ruby and Dorothy were pretty cute, but there really weren’t any “seeds” from S5a (other than the tale Hook’s dad told about being awoken from a sleeping curse by a nurse who fell in love with him as he slept). At least in the case of Ruby and Dorothy, they had at least met prior to Dorothy falling under the sleeping curse (unlike in the case of Hook’s dad and the nurse); yet, it’s really quite unbelievable when any couple falls in love so quickly. Sure, each person can be attracted to the other, but true love at first sight? Come on!
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
Ruby and Dorothy were pretty cute, but there really weren’t any “seeds” (Adam’s words) in S3a (other than the sleeping curse from which Hook’s dad supposedly awoke via TLK). At least in the case of Ruby and Dorothy, they had at least met prior to Dorothy falling under the sleeping curse (unlike in the case of Hook’s dad and the nurse); yet, it’s really quite unbelievable when any couple falls in love so quickly. Sure, each person can be attracted to the other, but true love at first sight? Come on!
I think the other seed Adam meant was that Ruby felt the need to go off an find her people (which is a heavy handed and weird way of saying she’s gonna be gay). But yeah, I agree with the super rushed nature of this relationship, even if they did have some heartfelt moments
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"I am of so many minds over this that I think it needs bullet pointed… PRO –Ruby and Dorothy did have a pretty nice connection. Their walk/talk was a nice moment about how alone they felt WITHOUT it being about their sexuality. CON –But every character on this show feels like an outcast at some point and it’s not like they developed true love with the person standing beside them who also felt like an outcast! CON –The love stories on this show are becoming tragically under developed with each passing season. It takes more than one walk and talk, one bike ride, one flower, one adventure to know that you’re in true love. Remember when this show used to declare that true love was rare and that’s why it must be fought for? PRO –Acceptance by all characters over how Ruby felt without any shock or disgust CON –Mulan keeps using gender neutral terminology when discussing the person it was “too late” for her to be with. PRO –A long and extended TLK for an LGBT ship CON –And now they go off to Forgotten Character Island making this episode feel like it was only to generate buzz, appeal to sensationalism, and appease the LGBT fanbase of OUAT. It’s almost cheap; have an LGBT canon ship but never explore it in the same careful, meaningful, and lengthy way the did for, say, Snowing.
I agree 100% with everyone you just said. It should have been Mulan. It shouldn’t have been so fast, and it shouldn’t just go to forgotten character island. As nice as it was to see how accepting everyone was of it on the show, they screwed this up so much. This is probably the angriest I’ve ever been regarding this show. This does hit home a bit for me, but I don’t think that’s the real reason I’m so outraged by this. Plus Dorothy was just an awful character. She was supposed to be this “warrior” and she literally did nothing except let Scarecrow get his brains taken away, let Toto get caught, almost get taken by flying monkeys and need Red to save her, and then get put under a sleeping curse. Quite the warrior.
And poor Mulan. I feel so bad for her. How many people around her have to find true love before she literally walks off a cliff. Why even bring Mulan back for this crap?
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