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Kansas and Wolfie

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Five › 5×18 “Ruby Slippers” › Kansas and Wolfie

  • This topic has 55 replies, 20 voices, and was last updated 9 years ago by Crystal Princess.
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  • April 23, 2016 at 3:00 am #321955
    sciencevsmagic
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    I have heard about that stereotype. Personally, I think it was done the way it was because:

    – They did it with secondary characters whom they couldn’t fit into the main story in a meaningful way (or couldn’t be bothered).

    – They had to rewrite the Ruby/Mulan story to Ruby/Dorothy because of Disney interference, so a relationship spanning two episodes was reduced to one. The switch also meant that we lost the careful build up of Mulan’s sexuality.

    – They just don’t have the skills to show a deep, meaningful relationship developing.

     

    Even if they were influenced by that stereotype, it doesn’t justify their poor storytelling. Fairytales or not, they should know that the audience will become more invested if they know the characters and they can see the relationship develop over time.

     

    Also, two cents about this…

    BUT, the problem is that at no point in OUAT, has there ever been a hint that Ruby wasn’t straight.

    I actually started thinking of Ruby as bi or at least questioning, ever since I saw her in S2. In several scenes, it really seems like she was flirting with Belle. In S1 there were no signs, but then again, she was cursed. The curse was supposed to separate you from things that you loved so if Ruby liked girls, it makes sense that she wasn’t aware of it. Plus, she didn’t turn during the time that she was cursed, and if the wolf is meant to be a metaphor for bisexuality then it’s like she’d be cut off from that part of herself. Mind you, I don’t know whether to give the writers credit for any of this. When I saw Ruby and Belle, I thought it was queerbaiting. I guess we’ll never know if they ever intended to develop her character in the way that they have.

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    April 23, 2016 at 8:26 am #321958
    RumplesGirl
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    Huh. I wondered what Cosima meant!

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 23, 2016 at 8:34 am #321960
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    Just some other things I’m tossing out there but the press buildup and reaction after the episode has been marginal. Look at how many interviews Greg Germann did before Our Decay (in which his love with Zelena was revealed); or look at how many Bex is doig for 519 (in which she and Hades move forward with being together AND she gets some development from with her mother, Cora)

    Has anyone seen any interviews or reactions with Jamie Chung, Meghan Ory, or Teri Reeves? To me it’s an example of how not only A and E but the media-press do not pay the same amount of care and attention to the LGBT ‘ship. The only articles I’ve seen such far were your standard episode reviews (no actress interviews) and one “this wasn’t a good episode and here’s why”

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 23, 2016 at 8:44 am #321962
    sciencevsmagic
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    I haven’t seen any interviews. But there is an OUAT convention in London this weekend and I think Meghan Ory is going to be there. So there might be something interesting to come out of that.

    May 2, 2016 at 2:43 pm #322567
    Leigh Walsh
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    May 2, 2016 at 7:17 pm #322615
    Crystal Princess
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    I’m really upset because it wasn’t Ruby/Mulan and they lied about sewing the seeds in the first part of the Season, it not being a “that special episode”, passing the Russo test, etc., pretty much everything other than “There will be an LGBT relationship”.

    It was kinda cute, but like it had so little build up and was in an already busy episode. It was pretty much filler. And yet another PoC got screwed over.
    I’d be okay with a Polyamorous thing(her “pack”) but I doubt they’d ever go there. Which is a shame.

    I don't cause commotions, I am one.

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