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March 31, 2014 at 9:35 pm #257801
Marty McFly
ParticipantBold storytelling choice? BOLD storytelling choice? really? I see it as a cowardly storytelling choice. a flimsy one.
a BOLD storytelling choice would be Gold’s sacrifice still standing. THAT’S a bold storytelling choice.this storytelling choice is them being CHICKEN. they wrote a death of a character, and realized that this might mean that he won’t be a lot on set, so they CHICKENED OUT and killed someone else to get him back. this is garbage.
and it’s a pity. they had something beautiful going there.
the story of an ugly man with a beautiful heart and a beautiful soul, who had a tragic past. a man who made ONE desperate choice in his life that caused him to struggle for his soul.
a man who later, because of that desperate choice to save his beloved child, ended up letting go of that child because of a split second decision over a portal that broke him and ruined his life.
this man finally won over the darkness, but it was too late, his son was gone to the land without magic, so he did his damnest to find him and make sure he had a chance at happiness.
and finally he made the last sacrifice (after sacrificing and sacrificing for that boy)
it was a beautiful way to tell his child he loved him, and always did. it was a happy ending, and yet it was an ending.a bold storytelling choice would be to let that ending stand. we would have been able to see Rumplestiltskin in flashbacks or in Belle’s or Baelfire’s dreams, so even that wouldn’t be that bold a storytelling choice. but if RC would refuse to come for such little screen time because his character is dead, they had to bring him back so his screen time increases.
CHICKENS!!!![adrotate group="5"]March 31, 2014 at 9:36 pm #257802Marty McFly
ParticipantI’m sorry, MRJ, but this is not a bold story…
March 31, 2014 at 10:42 pm #257829Slurpeez
Participanta bold storytelling choice would be to let that ending stand. we would have been able to see Rumplestiltskin in flashbacks or in Belle’s or Baelfire’s dreams, so even that wouldn’t be that bold a storytelling choice. but if RC would refuse to come for such little screen time because his character is dead, they had to bring him back so his screen time increases.
I agree. The story was bold in 3×11. Rumple’s sacrifice was about true heroism and reformation for the sake of saving his boy and Belle. Neal’s death was completely gratuitous and it lessens the impact of Rumple’s earlier sacrifice to save his son. This was a cop-out.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
April 1, 2014 at 8:05 am #257923enchantedfan
ParticipantFrom Adam Horowitz: “There is no classier actor than the supremely talented @MRaymondJames — we are honored to have worked with him and hope to do so again.”
From MRJ: “I will always be a #Oncer. Thank you so much for your passion. Stay tuned and #SpreadLove. Peace”
For me, these quotes appear very guarded…….and suspiciously wicked (excuse the pun)!
Could it mean that Nealfire is only absent to fool Zelena? I think Neal and Belle overheard Zelena’s nasty comments about them, and because they now know about her wicked plans, the OUAT writers have Neal and Belle devise a plot to melt that green witch into oblivion.
As MRJ tweeted, “stay tuned”.Keep hoping for happy endings and true love, as you enjoy your day!
p.s….Hope your days are getting better RumplesGirl :o)
Be who you are, and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. Dr. Seuss
April 1, 2014 at 7:16 pm #258204schaendlich
ParticipantWell, if he stays dead, I completely agree with marty mcfly. I posted this in “Hope? Maybe?”, but I have to put it here:
…His death didn’t belong in this episode, because it was just a tack on to it. Everything felt very rushed, and Hook was already acting like Neal was dead before he’d even died. It was like they were just trying to get it over with. I feel as though they ended Nealfire as if he could have never existed at all, when that isn’t true. There are four plot making characters in this show:
Rumpelstiltskin: The man who created the curse, to save the child he abandoned.
Regina: The woman who cast the curse to avenge her lover.
Baelfire/Neal Cassidy: The child who was the cause for the curse. Who travelled through dimensions to save himself, to save his family, and escape making his father’s mistake.
Emma: the child destined to break the curse, and free a town of people from enslavement.
Even if the show didn’t promote Nealfire as much, his death was still insultingly played down, and ignored any of the significance he had. It’s been revealed that MRJ didn’t have other arrangements, and it was just plot that killed him. So, now I feel that there was no excuse to not give Neal a better goodbye. I guess that the only way they can fix this now is through the impact of his death on everyone else.
Knowing that MRJ didn’t have to leave just makes me angrier about the execution of his death. It almost feels now as if they were just trying to hurriedly move him out of the way for someone else. I’m sorry, but the quick “Oh, yeah, Emma. I know we have true love, and all, but you can be happy without me” bit right before he kicks the bucket is a message to the audience. Now, I can’t help but wonder if he’s been taken out of the picture for a ship. If so, why do that? Neither of them had to die for that. Making it an easy choice, by killing one of the prospects (who happens to be her true love, a son, the father of her child, and the child that the reason for this show) is such poor writing, it amazes me. He died for almost nothing. Zelena was on the brink of being caught even without Rumpel’s contribution. Yes, they’d be joined for a bit. Yes, Rumpel would have been crazy, but the Charmings always find a way, and Belle is practically a genius.
Especially the grossness factor. You have killed Nealfire so that his true love can be with the man who had an adulterous affair with his mother, and was a pretty sizeable reason that he never knew her. Effectively having Hook “saving” lovers from Neal and his father? It’s just…*shiver*. I like Hook now. I didn’t at first, but he’s a good guy now. But, that is still just a terrible thing to do. What is the moral here? Even if Neal didn’t end up with Emma, it would have been better than death.
That, is of course, if that’s the case. Even if not, there’s still no excuse for this bad send off.
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