My timeline (in progress)

[RumplesGirl]

@Jade wrote:

In my opinion we all miss a point: the fairy tales were known in our world in the middle ages already. So no way the events of the Enchanted Forest could have happened in the 70s of our century. The curse made the characters travel not just through space but also through time.

True but doesn’t the question become, how did our world find out about those stories? Did they leak through? Did someone from our land bring them back? When you have King Midas existing at the same time as Snow White something odd is happening timewise. I feel as though the stories have been leaking through to our world at random points in time.

[Keb]

Also, Jade, there are hints that these stories echo back and forth and repeat themselves–after all, Aurora’s MOTHER was apparently the original sleeping beauty. Cinderella’s deal was pretty similar to the miller’s daughter’s, and those were 40 years apart. They’ve touched on this a few times in the series–like when August asks Emma where she thinks the stories come from–but they haven’t given us a definitive answer. We do know that the versions that happened in FTL/NL/TLWC are not exactly the traditional stories from the Land Without Magic (our world, or the version of our world that fits in this universe–I haven’t decided which). And the hatter told us that there are millions of worlds running parallel to one another. There are lots of ways the stories could have slipped around and gotten to us.

But IF time in the EF and TLWM runs the same (and we have little indication it doesn’t–in fact, Emma’s and Neal’s crossings to the EF, as well as Cora’s statement about how her protection bubble would work relative to the curse, suggest that yes, at least for these two worlds (but probably NOT for NL), time is the same.

And that means that yes, the events leading up to the curse did happen in the early 80s and late 70s, in this world. That doesn’t mean that the stories couldn’t have gotten out in some form in the past.

Besides, this is a story itself. It doesn’t have to match up perfectly to our reality.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[Keb]

So I have a few months to think about it, but I’m wondering whether I should combine Wonderland stuff in my timeline.

(I can pretty easily create multiple versions–I already have two running–so I can do one with and one without Wonderland…but I have a feeling it will be fascinating to see where the timelines intersect and how.)

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[RumplesGirl]

Keb, did you see this?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Keb]

I hadn’t yet but…that definitely makes the decision easier. Wonderland’s going in my timeline.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[jade]

@Keb wrote:

Also, Jade, there are hints that these stories echo back and forth and repeat themselves

But IF time in the EF and TLWM runs the same (and we have little indication it doesn’t–in fact, Emma’s and Neal’s crossings to the EF, as well as Cora’s statement about how her protection bubble would work relative to the curse, suggest that yes, at least for these two worlds (but probably NOT for NL), time is the same.

And that means that yes, the events leading up to the curse did happen in the early 80s and late 70s, in this world. That doesn’t mean that the stories couldn’t have gotten out in some form in the past.

Besides, this is a story itself. It doesn’t have to match up perfectly to our reality.

To be fair, I don’t like at all the idea that time runs exactly the same and in parallel with our world. It ruins all the magic. I imagine fairy tales in a world that doesn’t have the logical rules of our world. It would be better if the writers don’t try to explain that much the physical rules that govern that land.
For exemple I imagine Snowhite ageless, living in a story that finishes with a happy ending and keeps repeating every time is being renarrated. Eventually the curse disrupted that harmony.
Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate your work. 😉

[karinca]

A question from an avid fan but no where as detail oriented as you all on this post.
Do you have it in your timeline an order of episodes? I mean watch the episodes in chronological order, a different kind of re-watch for the summer break.

[Keb]

Actually, yes, episode order is in the master timeline. That was a recent addition. If you download the spreadsheet you can manipulate the order of it by using the data-sort function and sorting it by first episode # (column D) and then Episode Scene Order (it’s column E). If you then want to put it back in order, you should be able to use one of the three year columns (Emma years or Rumple years are the easiest, cuz Curse Years may not math properly), followed by the day and day-of-order columns. I haven’t actually tried this, though. I just set it up so that it -should- work.

…Actually, there’s no reason I couldn’t do the manipulation myself and add a page to the spreadsheet. It’s just that it would have to be updated too whenever I find a mistake or add a new episode (the latter of which is unlikely until autumn now for obvious reasons).

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[Keb]

Yeah, ok, so I updated with the new sheet added. New sheet is just the full timeline in episode/scene order. Some of the additional stuff (people’s births for example) winds up at the end as a result. It’s not perfectly tidy, but it does what you wanted.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[karinca]

Awesome Keb! Thanks!

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