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I was thinking about this today and how magic realms are medevial because there is no use for technological advances when you can just conjure everything up…. but what do you guys think our other real side effects of a land with magic? Psychological effects as well if you have power too I guess…hmmmm
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[adrotate group="5"]I think religion is very… Different. Most of their wants and wishes can be solved with magic (maybe not resurrection, but longevity, riches, youth, etc) So religion in magical lands is bound to be less…reliant? Assuming they even have religion. Ariel (in the Broadway version) apparently prays to fates (in the song Beyond My Wildest Dreams, she mentions she hoped and prayed the fates would hear her pleas)
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICNot sure if religion is that different. Most of the times magic is something that is not easily available for everyone, it’s something only a small number of people are able to do. So for many the wishes for riches, health, youth, a long live still are very much out of reach, they can’t do it themselves and they can’t afford to buy it either. More importantly I doubt that the wish for making sense of things, of life is any lessened by magic. People still wonder about their fate, who is responsible, what makes sense, what is the purpose of their lives. Religions have origins in times people believed very much in magic. For many here in our world science and most of technology is pretty close to magic.
A single person can wield more power on her/his own with magic though, no need for an army, a huge number of servants, so it might be easier to oppress technology advancement, and in a more positive interpretation, the leaders could use magic to satisfy many without the need for tech. Don’t think that magic per se hampers innovations of new and more effective tools and technology. Magic itself is only a tool.
Outside of the logic of fiction: Don’t think that magic realms have to be medieval, we just picture them that way most of the times, because we are convinced, that with our modern tech and science there would be no place for magic. Magic is imagined as a part of past and more “primitive” times or of fairy tales, which out of no good reason are so often pictured to play out in medieval surroundings, in an actually romanticised image of medieval. And we might keep it that way, because we like to escape our worlds at times, create something very different from everyday experience.
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Very interesting question. Have never really thought about that but yea most stories with magical Worlds are pretty medieval looking.
Can we name any movies, novels, tvshows etc that have a modern type World where there is magic?? I sure cant think of any right now..
Imagining what such a World would be like I agree with Spoekenkieker that religion would still play as big a part as it does now if not actually an even bigger part. The presence of magic would, I think, put in a certain kind of chaotic aspect to the World, if some people could change the wheather for instance too their own liking or something like that, that would in some sence mess with the universal order of Things wouldnt it? And so the regular people would turn to faith even more then in our World.
I imagine some of the Technologies we have would be replaced with magic ones because that would be easier, like lamps and lights. Tv’s and communicational devices. Its hard to imagine really what such a World would be, maybe we would have all gone insanly powerhungry and most likely blown up the World long time ago… come to think of it perhabs thats why they never get any further than the medieval times 🙂
Well u guys have a point. I didn’t think about that way. Hmm…
As far as psychological effects goes, I think if their are any people who are aware that there a many different realms (an infinite amount, according to Jefferson) and know that their lives are sometimes stories in the realms of others, I think that creates a terrifying feeling T.T not that because somewhere, your story is being told, but what about the stories you tell your kids? Imagine. We have stories and legends of actual boogeymen who steal away children and eat them. Some who take their skin and take their form. Others who slowly suck out souls in your sleep. How can you rest easy knowing…. Knowing…. That nothing is merely a story. That somewhere… In some land… That is life. Its horrifying.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICa few things: for all over the break check this out: its a podcast drama it has around 34 episodes it is called Second shift, about college students called to a land with magic. some of the world is politically organised, and some of it is organised by a dark religious order, (i really like it and one of the episodes is very dark-one-esque) check it out over the break it wont take long.
as to lands with magic and religion: is there a cult of the dark one? we have not seen it though that does not mean it does not exist.
other effects of lands with magic: i notice that unlike in Harry Potter there is no discrimination between those who have magic and those who cannot. at some point I want an explanation of why some have magical inate abilitieis like Cora, and Regina, and Emma, and others dont namely Snow Charming Cinderella, dwarves, Jiminy, etc.
I also think that in a land with magic, peoples imaginations would work differently because they would be forced to stretch beyond what they had once thought was possible, like since we as adults mainly imagine our future life trajectory someone like Prince David once eh realised he was to be a prince and fight a dragon had probably douzens of scenarios playing around in his head about encounters with many other beasts he had only heard about in legend. likewise regina when she learned she could push ehr mother through a looking glass into wonderland naturally assumed that there was a necromancing wizard somewhere who could bring Daniel back.
Magic always comes with a price, so I pay with visa.
People keep saying that some characters have “innate” magical abilities, and I dont thinkk that is the case. I think magic is simply something ANYONE can learn. Unless under certain circumstances like with Rumpel, do I believe that magic is actually within the person. Cora learned magic and does it well not because she has the ability in her, but because she learned it from the best and she practiced. Same with Regina. Emma has magic, yes, but without learning how to use, its nothing. In Wicked (both novel and musical version) magic and sorcery is literally a class anyone can take, the only thing is most people just don’t pursue it. I think that is the case. I think the only person who was already born with magic is Emma. MAYBE Henry considering his heart. Everyone else in my opinion, just took the time to learn what they needed to know. There is nothing stoping Charming or Snow or Hook from being just as powerful as Cora or Regina. (rant over) I’m sorry, I’ve seen this topic come up before and I have rarely expressed my opinion of it, but the bottom line for me is that generally no one really has innate magical ability. It just has to be learned like everything else.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICPeople keep saying that some characters have “innate” magical abilities, and I dont thinkk that is the case
A and E have said that certain people do have a spark.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Another thing I just thought about is how things such as magic beans would be totally outlawed…. for certain places would have some kind of anti magic protection. Imagine if a magic portal bean got into a prison, they could just throw it and open a portal and all the prisoners could escape to another realm. and we worry about people jumping across the border…..lol
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You can look at it from the viewpoint of Harry Potter. A modern child thrown into the world of magic where muggle items are basically outlawed. Just think about everything you do taken away. I think the psychological effect would only happen to say Emma, who was brought up a certain way then thrust into an unknown world. She, just like Harry didn’t know these creatures or realms existed.
I would think Neal would be the one to bring our world to the EF. Food would probably be the big thing for him.
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