Real Victorian England

[Slurpeez]

Adam answers a question that many have speculated about. The Darling family were living in REAL Victorian England, not Fictional England.

[RumplesGirl]

And another theory bites the dust.

This does NOT explain that line in The Queen is Dead, however. Neal clearly said that THIS world wasn’t his first stop when he left home. Unless he’s saying that he was hear for a very short amount of time and thus for Neal it doesn’t count as a real stop. But that seems unlikely given how he came to consider the Darlings and London his home.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[gypsy]

Well, there is still 6 months unaccounted for before he shows up in London…….

[MysteryKat25]

Argh I HATE that line. On the bright side it means that if the Darlings are connected to the Home Office they didn’t have to find a way to get to our version of anything so that is good at least. However, I think we’re going to have to take his (absolutely idiotic) line as something along the lines of Neverland being a real “stop” because he stayed there so long and then our world. I can’t however explain away the 6 months + “a few weeks” in our world when that’s clearly what happened unless it’s just been soooo long for him (and NL time seems even longer) that he doesn’t really consider it as stopping here until the 2nd trip here (or at least, 2nd that we know of – this is starting to sound a lot like the Ogre Wars numbering system :S)

Gypsy – Didn’t it show him landing and then almost immediately finding Kensington Gardens though? I feel like it was very heavily implied that he was basically living an Oliver Twist existence in that area for the 6 months before finding the Darlings. Otherwise I’m very much inclined to agree with you!

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[RumplesGirl]

@Gypsy wrote:

Well, there is still 6 months unaccounted for before he shows up in London…….

So he drops into Kennsington Gardens after The Return and then somehow leaves and then comes back to London and then leaves again for NL?

Unless…he falls into K. Gardens from some other place, not FTL. But he calls out for Rumple. So it has to be right after The Return.

*scratches head* Ouch?

It has to be FTL–>K Gardens–> 6months–> London/Darling Family–> NL

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Demileto]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

And another theory bites the dust.

This does NOT explain that line in The Queen is Dead, however. Neal clearly said that THIS world wasn’t his first stop when he left home. Unless he’s saying that he was hear for a very short amount of time and thus for Neal it doesn’t count as a real stop. But that seems unlikely given how he came to consider the Darlings and London his home.

I’ll just fanwack this to a bad choice of words. It makes far more sense for Bae to have landed in the real England, because it defeats the whole point of the Curse bringing Rumple to the world Bae went when he fell through the portal if that London wasn’t the one from The Land Without Magic.

[gypsy]

Kat – yeah, I think you’re right about that.
Feel like I’m discussing an eps of LOST – trying to wrap my head around the ‘variables’ 🙂

[MysteryKat25]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@Gypsy wrote:

Well, there is still 6 months unaccounted for before he shows up in London…….

So he drops into Kennsington Gardens after The Return and then somehow leaves and then comes back to London and then leaves again for NL?

Unless…he falls into K. Gardens from some other place, not FTL. But he calls out for Rumple. So it has to be right after The Return.

*scratches head* Ouch?

Hmm, that’s the only way I can see them getting out of that line and yet he was still originally supposed to be going to a land without magic which still heavily implies our world, especially given that Rumple had the curse go to our world (though it took him forever and I’m still not sure if it was a “go to this land” type thing or “go to whatever land Bae is in now” type of thing which could be the same or they could be different and both would have ended up here now but only by coincidence).

I suppose he could have gone through another portal though I’m not sure how given that that was the last bean and he was supposed to be somewhere without magic so how would he have gotten another one to create a very similar portal to those we’ve only seen with beans. As for calling out for Rumple I think any trip down a portal would be traumatic, especially happening so soon and at that age, and he supposedly had nightmares for years as well.

I was hoping to see a scene of this in the Hook and Bae flashbacks, showing that Bae was having the nightmares we’ve heard about and seeing Hook be there for him and bond them a bit more before Bae discovered the connection to Hook but sadly, if that was ever written *and it probably was – sigh* it landed on the cutting room floor. So we still have no evidence of this ever being an issue except for Neal saying it again and again (hinted at to Emma with leaping at the idea of the dreamcatcher and then again when he talked to Rumple saying he has the nightmares every night – yet nobody seems to know about them).

*shakes fist at Neal’s lines and his awkward wording to explain the past* Sometimes I swear I just wanna smack him over the head and scream “Just say what you mean!”

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[RumplesGirl]

Wish they’d be more careful about this stuff.

This was the first time this duo wrote together, but they’ve both written episodes for Once before, and good ones too!

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Demileto]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Wish they’d be more careful about this stuff.

For real.

Take Jefferson’s words about there being LandS without magic, for example. We know now that the Hat could only take him to lands WITH magic, so how could he know there was more than just one of them without it?

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