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Now that we know it is real Victorian England, I’m trying to think along this line – it is Victorian England that the Darling’s exist in. They were written to exist in real Victorian England, but they didn’t exist in RVE until 1904.
Maybe, being from EF – a world that consists of fairy tale charaters, if they go through a vortex they may go to ‘our world’ (RVE) but it has to be written about in a story. Like a story character (Bae) needs a constant (like Desmond did) – another story character on the other side – in order to ‘come out’ in any given time/place.
Bae was able to come to our world later because Emma came here in 1983, so, now he could come to our world again…..something like that……grrrrr….it’s frustrating 🙂[adrotate group="5"]@RumplesGirl wrote:
Wish they’d be more careful about this stuff.
This was the first time this duo wrote together, but they’ve both written episodes for Once before, and good ones too!
Agreed, + don’t the headwriters generally look over the scripts and make sure that nothing contradicts something they want to do / tell them to add in something about ___ without necessarily telling them why?
I feel like *somebody* along the way would have been like um…but didn’t you say that this happens? So it seems VERY odd to me.
It reminds me of something I saw about Silver Linings Playbook (no spoilers), but certain numbers had to be = to a specific number and one of the actresses on the sideline of that scene kept doing the math in her head and it wasn’t adding up to what they wanted it to be and she was right. Surely SOMEBODY would think something was off or at least question what that means down the line…
As for Jefferson, perhaps he knows of the existence of them but can’t get there via his hat. The way he travels is only within the hat but we’ve seen other ways to get places so he may have vast knowledge on this and he might know other portal jumpers that use different means of travelling etc.
Agreed Gypsy, it is frustrating! I like the idea of needing a constant because they do kinda have to travel around via stories they can tell so that would make sense. Then we’re back to the pesky couple hundred years line because I always figured from his birthdate-now, it would seem to Emma like a couple hundred years and even more than that to Bae because NL time is different but if he landed late 1800s / early 1900s (I’ve seen them SAY 19th century which would be 1800s but uh..why does it LOOK like the early 1900s? which also lines up with the PP story…and in that case HOW could he possibly be supposed to be a couple hundred years old if it’s just a 100?)
I’m giving myself a headache :S
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
A and E are supposed to be look over everything, but sometimes I think they need a fan in there to go: um, but what about….?
The Constant is a good idea (that episode from LOST made me sob infinite tears)
And yes, it HAS to be closer to 1900."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"@MysteryKat25 wrote:
As for Jefferson, perhaps he knows of the existence of them but can’t get there via his hat. The way he travels is only within the hat but we’ve seen other ways to get places so he may have vast knowledge on this and he might know other portal jumpers that use different means of travelling etc.
It’s possible, but so far every time a land without magic is involved in the plot it’s heavily hinted they’re referring to THE Land Without Magic. Take the ruby slippers dialogue from The Doctor, for example:
Rumplestiltskin: What about the slippers?
Mad Hatter: Oh. Couldn’t find ’em. Heard talk they’d already been moved to another land.
Rumplestiltskin: That’s what I needed to get to that other land.
Mad Hatter: Well, come with me in my hat. I’m sure we can work something out.
Rumplestiltskin: No, no. Your hat only transports between magical realms. I need to get to a land without magic.@MysteryKat25 wrote:
(I’ve seen them SAY 19th century which would be 1800s but uh..why does it LOOK like the early 1900s? which also lines up with the PP story…and in that case HOW could he possibly be supposed to be a couple hundred years old if it’s just a 100?)
Does it really look like early 1900s? The clothes Wendy and Mary Darling are wearing doesn’t strike me as early 20th century, but that’s just me.
I agree, they’ve always strongly hinted that this land is THE land without magic. And yet…
From Hat TrickJefferson: A real world. How arrogant are you to think yours is the only one? There are infinite more. You have to open your mind. They touch one another, pressing up in a long line of lands. Each just as real as the last. All have their own rules. Some have magic, some don’t.
Some have magic…some don’t. That always read to me like there were multiple places without magic.
But then I look at our world. It was never a land without magic, right? The Dragon, even Regina had some magic in SB. Maybe a better way to word it is, a land where new magic cannot be created.And yet..the Dragon made the potion for August before Rumple brought magic. *man I hate S,B and T*
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"Maybe the worlds Jefferson is refering to are not worlds in the sense that we think of a ‘world’.
Maybe he’s refering to books.They’ve already noded to Keasey’s One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, Kerouas’s On the Road, Verne’s Mysterious Island and of course, Shelley’s Frankenstein.
There are a ton of Stephen King nods – one huge one – the fact that Jefferson lives in Johnny Smith’s house from SK’s The Dead Zone and has actual props from the tv series in his living room.
Would fit with what I said in another thread on here a few days ago (don’t remember where) about the ‘doors’ in Jefferson’s hat not really being actual ‘doors’ but books…going through a door is like opening a book.
Henry’s book is important to the plot. All the ppl are from stories and/or books.Has anyone tweeted Adam about Nealfire’s, “not the first” quote? If he replies to someone saying, “Ooops, we buggered that line up,” then I’ll be able to get over it. Right now, it just BUGS. Even moreso with the confirmation that that London was our world London. GAH! *headdesk*
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Has anyone tweeted Adam about Nealfire’s, “not the first” quote? If he replies to someone saying, “Ooops, we buggered that line up,” then I’ll be able to get over it. Right now, it just BUGS. Even moreso with the confirmation that that London was our world London. GAH! *headdesk*
Done! Maybe if some others tweet along with me, we’ll get an answer.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
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