March 5, 2012 at 2:22 am #133841riddleravenParticipant
What do you think their history is?
We Rumple knows the truth about Storybrooke so he wasn’t just talking about nuns when he told Leroy “we have a lot of history.” I immediately thought of how easy it was for him to kill Cinder’s Fairy. I hope this gets expounded on more someday.March 5, 2012 at 3:14 am #138128miaParticipant
Yes, there’s definitely some background there. It may have something to do with his son or some deal. Unfortunately I don’t think they’ll go into it this season.March 5, 2012 at 3:37 am #138140cruel_fortunaParticipant
My guess is that Rumple is referring to the Blue Fairy. Seeing as Cinderella gave him a quill which she had enchanted that bound his magic. Effectively leading to Thomas’ disappearance, as well as Rumple’s imprisonment in the cave-cell that the dwarves had fashioned for him to ensure his magic would still be moot inside his cell. So that’s probably part of the history he’s referring to. It also wouldn’t surprise me if he hadn’t run into at least one fairy, that wasn’t too keen on him granting ‘wishes’ – “for a price”. When that would be encroaching on the fairy’s use of fairy dust and it would also mean they would be ‘obsolete’, as it were. Since from what I gather fairy dust only helps you achieve your dreams under your own power and Rumple’s deals while costly, do tend to be enacted at a much faster pace.March 5, 2012 at 4:15 am #138142weedithParticipant
My guess is that Rumple is referring to the Blue Fairy. Seeing as Cinderella gave him a quill which she had enchanted that bound his magic. Effectively leading to Thomas’ disappearance, as well as Rumple’s imprisonment in the cave-cell that the dwarves had fashioned for him to ensure his magic would still be moot inside his cell. So that’s probably part of the history he’s referring to..
I’ll buy that. I wonder where exactly he would send them if they default, since nobody can leave Storybrooke. Or is that just the ever-looming threat that nobody knows he can’t make good on?March 5, 2012 at 4:16 am #138143hjbauParticipant
I think there has to be more then just the quill because Rumpel may not have even known where the quill came from.March 5, 2012 at 5:02 am #138153SnickerdoodleParticipant
I’m sure the fairies didn’t mind helping to get him jailed and powerless since he had assassinated Cinderella’s fairy godmother through a deal with King George, to get the magic wand.
I wondered too about how the nuns would leave SB? Especially since bad things always happen to the people who try to leave. I’m sure Mr. Gold doesn’t care if anything bad happens to them, since he knows who they really are.March 5, 2012 at 5:46 pm #138172nightreaderParticipant
I’m pretty sure there’s more to this history they have than just the quill, probably more than the killing of Ella’s fairy too. I hope they’ll let us see it at some point.March 5, 2012 at 7:21 pm #138179SnickerdoodleParticipant
Just re watched Price of Gold, there were a few things that tie in here.
1) Rumpel told Cinderella that the magic wand was pure evil, and that all magic comes with a price. So are fairies playing around with good and evil in their use of magic, trying to use evil for good? Maybe fairies are only supposed to be fairy dust shakers like Tinkerbell, and they have expanded into other magic.
2) The mines are no longer in use and have been converted to a special place to hold Rumpelstiltskin. So is fairy dust no longer needed?
3) The quill used to freeze Rumplestiltskin had a spell put upon it by the blue fairy. No fairy dust involved that we know of.
and 4) Cinderella questions using the quill since she has learned that all magic comes with a price and feels that is what has gotten them into trouble in the first place; to which Thomas replies he is willing to pay the price to save her and the baby. So I am wondering if his disappearance is the price paid for using the magic quill? ( for comments on that topic visit https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=226? ) And so if the fairies do help using magic is there a price for it like Rumpel said in this other epsiode? I was assuming fairy magic wasn’t costly in that way, but in fact freely given for helping the people of FTL.March 5, 2012 at 7:25 pm #138180rumplegoldfankristiParticipant
Someone has a whole theory somewhere (I don’t think it’s on this site) that Rumple’s son became miserable after Rumple became the Dark One and made a wish that he could disappear that the Blue Fairy overheard. She somehow found a way to make him disappear and he became one of the Lost Boys from Peter Pan who never grows up and is befriended and protected by Tinkerbelle (another Fairy). He is somehow spared from the curse but finds out about it. This person thinks that Rumple wrote the book and that the reason that Henry can’t figure out who Gold is is because he left parts of himself out of the book. Rumple’s son (who didn’t die because he never grew up) starts to age when Emma comes on the scene and figures out what is going on (he is August W. Boothe). He comes to town and adds the missing pages that contain Rumple’s story so that Henry can figure out who Rumple is). It explains why Rumple hates Fairies so much. Sounds like a decent theory to me and one I hadn’t thought of.March 5, 2012 at 8:30 pm #138185fairytaleprincessParticipant
Wow, cruel_fortuna I love your theory! The Blue Fairy seems to play a key role in keeping a balance, peace or safety in FTL. The quill, the tree and a teacher of other fairies such as Nova. I can see why Rumple would hate them.
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