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You walk out on your family, and the next time you see your husband (7+ years latter) he is magical, with gold skin, rotted teeth, his hand is in your lovers chest, and your confrontational with him? She was not the least bit curious as to where her son was, or what happened to Rumple, not the least bit apologetic for her actions. Obviously, the writers could have given a line or two to address this, but they wanted to show that her character had moved on and did not care about her past life. Rumple should have just walked away. Not sure how Bae (when found) could forgive his dad for killing his mom. The only resolution, at the end of the series, would be one huge act of bravery by Rumple (without his powers), to save everyone and FTL.
[adrotate group="5"]What kind of mother could abandon your young son (Bae must be 7-8 years old in this eps) to ran away with another man?
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I think Millah was doing the right thing. Hear me out. She was misrible and had she had to give up her true love just to stay with Rumple just for Bae’s sake, she would have wound up hateing Rumple. What would it have done to Bae to see the fights esclate?
She obviously couldn’t take Bae with her. What kind of life is that for a kid, raised on a ship by pirates? (although I do smell a good fic in the making… 😎 ). She knew that Rumple loved Bae and, as cowardly as he was, he would give Bae the best life he could.
So yeah, i could see how in her mind she was doing the right thing. I was actually kind of disappointed that Rumple killed her, but it did give a tragic element to one of our villains, one we don’t see in Corra. And it means, as much as it might kill some fangirl’s hearts, I don’t think he can be redeemed. His true love is dead.
…Unless she wasn’t his one true love (how does that kind of thing work anyways?) and he winds up hooking up with ariel, no pun intended…
Okay, so I think what the writers are doing with Rumple makes sense. Last season was all lets see how far we can take things with Regina and still have people love her. This season their doing it with him.
At this point, does he deserve redemption? Does he deserve to have his true love and his son? Or have his past and some present ones pushed him to a place where he doesn’t deserve his happy ending? In my mind the writers are laying out the facts and saying,”Okay audience, how you like him NOW?”
As far as Milha goes….no I don’t think she deserved to die. I also think I would have truly hated her if the storyline had been different and she HAD taken Bae with her. I think she realized a pirate ship was no place for a child! I think she also realized that had she taken Bae, Rumple would have had nothing left to live for…..honestly that one action, NOT taking Bae changed the entire course of fairy tale history in their world. (Rumple would have had no one to protect. Regina would have had no one to influence her to turn to magic. The curse never would have happened…..
So in conclusion: Thanks a lot Milha! This is entirely your fault! Lol
Yeah, he went way too far this time- killing his wife for actually doing the right thing for herself & ultimately her son (or so she thought), that was an act of pure evil & vindictiveness. If every man or women was able to kill their spouse for leaving a loveless marriage, we’d probably die as a species 😆
She tried to tell Rumple why she was acting the way she was & how she felt- he being a coward wanted no part of it & simply expected her to pull her head in & live life the way he was comfortable living. So he lost his wife.
She didn’t take Bae with her because as others have said, she knew that wasn’t a stable life for a VERY sheltered child, especially when he had a loving, all be it coward of a father, who would take care of him (& I’m sure she felt he’d be safe as Rumple being a weaver & a coward was Very very unlikely to get into fights or disputes etc).Another facet to his murdering Milha that I thought played a Massive role, was the fact he didn’t once mention what He himself had forced Bae into. I fully believe when he killed Milha, he was punishing her for what he himself did to Bae & simply used the excuse of her leaving him to be with her true love & happy as justification for himself.
I still think Regina is/was the more twisted one, but I now feel Rumple is categorically the more cruel/evil one of the pair- he doesn’t even have the excuse of being manipulated into his actions, he chooses it with cold hearted callousness, even with those we actually loves or cares for 😐
The only thing that allows Rumple to get away with pure evil, is the fact H&K will just blame it all on the darkone curse- so if/when he finally lets go of magic/power he will be able to be totally redeemed- In some ways that is kind of a cop-out tho—- at least in my eyes it is.
The only thing that allows Rumple to get away with pure evil, is the fact H&K will just blame it all on the darkone curse- so if/when he finally lets go of magic/power he will be able to be totally redeemed- In some ways that is kind of a cop-out tho—- at least in my eyes it is.
But he will still have to deal with the consequences of what he did. I don’t see Bae forgiving him for so much, especially since Rumple killed his mom and a whole bunch of other things like the cure. This will be all the worse because i think he will find out about this stuff one at a time.
@Naomi wrote:
I think some sort of understanding between Rumple and Bae will be endgame, ultimately, but it’s going to be a very looooong and difficult road before we get to that.
Bae’s gonna have a helluva lot to forgive, that’s for sure. He’ll also have to work in forgiving his dead mother for leaving him, along with everything his father has done. I don’t think it’ll be impossible for them to work it out though. It’s not impossible that Bae could go through something in his own life that may cause him to have some empathy for his father.
@Keie wrote:
So in conclusion: Thanks a lot Milha! This is entirely your fault! Lol
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@Surayya wrote:
Yeah, he went way too far this time- killing his wife for actually doing the right thing for herself & ultimately her son (or so she thought), that was an act of pure evil & vindictiveness. If every man or women was able to kill their spouse for leaving a loveless marriage, we’d probably die as a species 😆
Killing her was extreme and uncalled for, no doubt about it, murder is never ever an acceptable option. I can’t write him off for it though, coz I had me some dark thoughts after my husband left, and had I have had me some dark, magical powers to go along with my heartbreak, chances are I’d have used ’em to lay the smackdown. 😛 Luckily, I’m not cursed to be the Dark One, and am a pacifist, so have no murderous deeds on my conscience, but I can see why Rumple lashed out like he did in the heat of that moment.
Another facet to his murdering Milha that I thought played a Massive role, was the fact he didn’t once mention what He himself had forced Bae into. I fully believe when he killed Milha, he was punishing her for what he himself did to Bae & simply used the excuse of her leaving him to be with her true love & happy as justification for himself.
Not unlike that time he beat Moe and was screaming about how he’d hurt Belle. All that anger wasn’t just directed at Moe, Rumple was in large part beating himself up.
This episode did take Rumple to possibly the darkest place we’ve seen him in, killing the mother of his son. But on the flipside, his final scene with Belle in the library did show that he’s finally starting to own up to his faults. He’s been honest with someone for the first time in several hundred years. He’s actually let someone see him as being vulnerable, desperate even. That’s HUGE character development for him, and goes to show how good Belle is for him. Thank you, Belle for being tough on him!
@Phee wrote:
Killing her was extreme and uncalled for, no doubt about it, murder is never ever an acceptable option. I can’t write him off for it though, coz I had me some dark thoughts after my husband left, and had I have had me some dark, magical powers to go along with my heartbreak, chances are I’d have used ’em to lay the smackdown. 😛 Luckily, I’m not cursed to be the Dark One, and am a pacifist, so have no murderous deeds on my conscience, but I can see why Rumple lashed out like he did in the heat of that moment.
ROFLOL Phee! I love the rest of your post but this part just cracks me up! Your honesty is so refreshing and I know MANY of us have been down to those dark trenches at some point of our lives.
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Surayya wrote: Another facet to his murdering Milha that I thought played a Massive role, was the fact he didn’t once mention what He himself had forced Bae into. I fully believe when he killed Milha, he was punishing her for what he himself did to Bae & simply used the excuse of her leaving him to be with her true love & happy as justification for himself.
Phee wrote: Not unlike that time he beat Moe and was screaming about how he’d hurt Belle. All that anger wasn’t just directed at Moe, Rumple was in large part beating himself up.
Indeed, Rumpel has a lot of self-hatred. He said he wanted Hook to feel what it’s like to have his wife stolen from him and to feel helpless to do anything about it. While he was speaking of revenge on one level, it was a very telling comment about how much Dark Rumpel hated his own cowardice before his curse. Now that he is the Dark One, Rumpel still hates himself for being a coward at his core. A lot of the violence we’ve seen from Dark Rumpel is the result of his curse, but is also rooted in his own self-loathing. That’s also why he told Belle that no one could ever love him, because he really believed it. He felt his own wife and son rejected him, so he had the hardest time believing Belle could ever really love him. It was far easier to believe Regina had commissioned Belle take away his powers than to believe Belle truly loved him, in spite of him being the Dark One.
In the commentary for A Land Without Magic, Adam and Eddy said the fight scene between Rumpel and Charming is a very poignant scene. Robert Carlyle had the astute insight into Rumpel’s psyche in that not only is Rumpel really a fan of true love, but that he wishes he could be brave and heroic like Charming, who always fights for true love. This is again reflected in The Crocodile when Mr. Gold asks David for dating advice. Rumpel wants to make his relationship with Belle work, but is at a loss to know how David and Mary Margaret make it work. David replies “honesty of the heart” and a lot of hard work. We see Mr. Gold put this advice into practice in the library scene.
Phee wrote: This episode did take Rumple to possibly the darkest place we’ve seen him in, killing the mother of his son. But on the flipside, his final scene with Belle in the library did show that he’s finally starting to own up to his faults. He’s been honest with someone for the first time in several hundred years. He’s actually let someone see him as being vulnerable, desperate even. That’s HUGE character development for him, and goes to show how good Belle is for him. Thank you, Belle for being tough on him!
Yes, this was a huge break-through for Mr. Gold/Rumpel. Belle is certainly right in standing up for herself and to him for needing courage to be honest. He fully realizes he’s still a coward and that he collects power to compensate. He acknowledges that he uses power as a crutch, without which he fears he couldn’t walk. (Great metaphor, since he uses an actual cane in SB). Also, now that finally expressing “honesty of he heart” to Belle, will he finally be able to put her and her needs first? He said he needs magic to try and break the new barrier curse, but Belle seemed opposed to him using magic any more. Also, would he dare tell Belle that he killed Baelfire’s mother when he was the Dark One? That might terrify her more than she could handle.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
ROFLOL Phee! I love the rest of your post but this part just cracks me up! Your honesty is so refreshing and I know MANY of us have been down to those dark trenches at some point of our lives.
😆 Thankfully it happened enough years ago that I can joke around about it a bit now. 😉 But it was dark and ugly for a while there, so I’m totally rocking the empathy for Rumple on this one. At least I got dumped in private, not surrounded by a shipload of people laughing at me, which would have just compounded the humiliation of it all for him, and made him feel even more that he had to put on a show of power to save face.
@slurpeez108 wrote:
He acknowledges that he uses power as a crutch, without which he fears he couldn’t walk. (Great metaphor, since he uses an actual cane in SB).
Loved that line! The only time we’ve seen him wandering around without his literal crutch was when he was in full possession of his metaphorical crutch.
I think he didn’t plan (or want) to kill her but in his fist of rage. She pushed him too far.
C’mon, she humiliated him in front of all the pirates. He always have the self-esteem issue+corrupted evil power–>mental issue+her attitude and carelessness toward their son+broken heart (i think he did love her, and she declared that she never loved him and he was a coward–>dumb move, really!)+the lost his son+Hook and milah’s smug face+hatred to everything (at that moment)+he had the power in his hand……. She dug her own grave.
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