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October 22, 2012 at 4:42 pm #157635faux paxParticipant
I think that because Rumple is the more favored character out of those two, some people want to excuse everything he’s done. Truth is, I don’t think Milla was teasing him heartlessly, I think she was telling him a hard truth the he couldn’t take. Pile that on top of the fact that he was projecting his own self loathing over what happened to Bae onto her, and most of the fault lies at the Crock’s scaly feet…
[adrotate group="5"]October 23, 2012 at 4:57 am #157763gigiParticipantActually, that’s not favor anyone over anyone 🙂 That’s character’s analyzing. And based on what the writers have done, I think they want us to think like that. They want us to be sympathize at Rumple’s character and sort of understanding why did he kill his wife (at least in my logic). Unlike Regina’s case. Do you feel sympathetic toward Regina when she killed her father?
October 23, 2012 at 5:27 am #157767youfoundmeParticipant@Gigi wrote:
Actually, that’s not favor anyone over anyone 🙂 That’s character’s analyzing. And based on what the writers have done, I think they want us to think like that. They want us to be sympathize at Rumple’s character and sort of understanding why did he kill his wife (at least in my logic). Unlike Regina’s case. Do you feel sympathetic toward Regina when she killed her father?
I completely agree. With Regina, you had to hate her when she killed her father. For Rumple, you kind of have to sympathize with him…or maybe I am just watching too much Dexter…but for me I will always take Rumple’s side..gotta love the Rumps.
October 23, 2012 at 5:53 am #157776faux paxParticipantIt’s not about sympathizing with one over the other. What bothers me is how people want to turn Milah into this Cora-level monster when, if you look at it from her perspective, she did what she thought was best.
October 23, 2012 at 6:14 am #157782youfoundmeParticipantOh I would never put Milah in the same line with Cora. I really don’t even see her as someone who is evil. She just made a few really bad mistakes. I am just saying that I understand why Rumple killed her in the end…she hurt him when she said she never loved him and that pushed him over the edge because he was already angry that she left Bae.
October 23, 2012 at 6:46 am #157786gigiParticipantI never see anyone in this thread including myself put Milah in the same evil line with Cora. But she definitely had a place in “worst mom of the show” list.
Really? She thought what she think was best? She left her young boy to her poor, lame husband to raise him alone while she obviously lived a very good life with Hook. The pirate ship is not a good place for raising a child, but growing up poorness in a village where your father was labeled as a town coward, your mother ran way with another man, and you had to go to the Orge War and died at 14 is better? You watched season 1. If Rumple didn’t become the Dark one, Bae wouldn’t live past 15 years.
But if she took him with her, i think he would at least have a better life. He wouldn’t grow up in poorness, he would survive the 15 years. But did she do it? No. I doubt that she even think that much. She took her lover more important than her own son, she was afraid that make Hook would be displease. Then when she was confronted by Rumple, she said she regretted it. She had 7+ years to come back anytime and brought him with her but she didn’t. She obviously knew that Rumple would came after her, but she let the pirates humiliated him. She must be hiding in the cabin when Rumble begged Hook to return her for the sake of their son. If she was a loving mother, she would think or had a second thought.
Cora is evil. But at least she’s done evil thing for the sake of Regina. She raised her daughter, made the deal with Rumple to keep Regina (original story). She killed Dainel because she want her daughter to be a queen, to live in riches. She cares for Regina! Even it was wrong but she does care about her daughter.
If you compare Milah and Cora on the evil’s scale, Cora is definitely the winner. But Milah and Cora on the “motherly’s love/responsibility” scale? Milah by miles.October 23, 2012 at 7:11 am #157787PheeParticipant@youfoundme wrote:
Oh I would never put Milah in the same line with Cora. I really don’t even see her as someone who is evil. She just made a few really bad mistakes. I am just saying that I understand why Rumple killed her in the end…she hurt him when she said she never loved him and that pushed him over the edge because he was already angry that she left Bae.
Yep, that’s where I’m at too.
October 23, 2012 at 8:14 am #157790surayyaParticipantBut he will still have to deal with the consequences of what he did. I don’t see Bae forgiving him for so much, especially since Rumple killed his mom and a whole bunch of other things like the cure. This will be all the worse because i think he will find out about this stuff one at a time.
What I meant by my statement of them blaming it on the darkone curse, is that no matter how evil Rumple behaves under the influence of the darkone curse, he IS under the influence of Dark magic & so not acting of his own true volition (much like a high drug addict- they cant control what they are doing & are capable of heinous acts totally out of character when under the influence)- as say Regina is- she may be being manipulated like a puppet on strings, but ultimately, she has free will to choose to stop. Rumple on the other hand has the excuse of the Darkone curse tainting his soul, inducing him to be evil & so cant choose to simply stop it working on him, unless he kills himself. Therefore of all the characters, he is the one who while he is able to be the cruellest most evil of them all, still has in effect the best/easiest defence for doing so.
It doesn’t change what he did under the influence, it does make forgiveness & redemption much more possible, as he didn’t have free will to ‘resist’ doing evil.
October 23, 2012 at 11:15 am #157802SlurpeezParticipant^
I wish it were possible for Belle’s true love kiss to set Mr. Gold free from his Dark One curse in SB, but since magic is different here, it’s quite unlikely now."That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
October 23, 2012 at 11:49 am #157808surayyaParticipant@slurpeez108 wrote:
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I wish it were possible for Belle’s true love kiss to set Mr. Gold free from his Dark One curse in SB, but since magic is different here, it’s quite unlikely now.Yeah… I figured since his ‘true loves kiss’ didn’t break his darkone curse after he’d let magic loose in SB, that it was back to square one as far breaking it goes.
My theory so far is he gets stabbed with the knife- ending his curse, Belle kisses him just as he dies & rainbow shock waves burst outwards from Rumbelle as he awakes to his twu wuv dearies 😆 😉
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