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November 6, 2013 at 10:29 pm #221679PheeParticipant
I wrote this in the other thread, I think he sent Ariel for the box and is going to use it to capture Peter’s shadow. He’ll send Emma and the guys to Dark Hollow to get the shadow and trap it in the box.
I think they might actually trap Pan himself in the box.
Regina: Maybe we can find another way…something to contain him, some other fate.
Pan gets locked in the box. They bring the box back to SB, and then Pan escapes it somehow. Which is how he’s in the middle of Main St in the pics for 311.
Maybe it’s Pandora’s Box?
Pandora’s box is an artifact in Greek mythology, taken from the myth of Pandora’s creation in Hesiod’s Works and Days. The “box” was actually a large jar given to Pandora (“all-gifted”, “all-giving”), which contained all the evils of the world.
Today the phrase “to open Pandora’s box” means to perform an action that may seem small or innocent, but that turns out to have severe and far-reaching consequences.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora%27s_box
Pan is a Greek god, (not explicitly so on the show, I’m just talking mythologically), so trapping him in a magical box from Greek mythology could be fun.Ooooohhhh, maybe the opening of Pandora’s Box way back when has something to do with Dark Ones and Shadows and Wraiths being unleashed on the worlds? Rumple acquired the empty box at some point during his career, just in case it would come in handy one day.
In classical Greek mythology, Pandora was the first woman on Earth. Zeus ordered Hephaestus, the god of craftsmanship, to create her, so he did—using water and earth. The gods endowed her with many gifts: Athena clothed her, Aphrodite gave her beauty, and Hermes gave her speech.
When Prometheus stole fire from heaven, Zeus took vengeance by presenting Pandora to Epimetheus, Prometheus’ brother. With her, Pandora was given a beautiful jar – with instructions not to open it under any circumstance. Impelled by her curiosity (given to her by the gods), Pandora opened it, and all evil contained therein escaped and spread over the earth. She hastened to close the container, but the whole contents had escaped, except for one thing that lay at the bottom – the Spirit of Hope named Elpis. Pandora, deeply saddened by what she had done, feared she would have to face Zeus’ wrath, since she had failed her duty; however, Zeus did not punish Pandora, because he knew this would happen.
I may or may not be forming new headcanon that Blue = Pandora.
[adrotate group="5"]November 8, 2013 at 1:19 pm #222241TheGoldenKeyParticipantThis is all a bit random, but I was thinking about a possible connection between the name “Baelfire” and the series “A Wheel of Time.” In that series, baelfire is a kind of weapon or magic. According to A Wheel of Time Wiki:
“Since before the Breaking of the World, the use of balefire has been forbidden. The White Tower forbids us even to learn it. In the War of Power, the Forsaken and the Shadowsworn themselves used it only reluctantly.”
When a target is struck with balefire, its thread in the pattern is destroyed, in an amount proportional to the power of the balefire strike. This translates to the target’s existence being completely erased, chronologically in reverse. For example, should an Aes Sedai use balefire on an attacking bandit, the bandit’s action of attacking the Aes Sedai and anything leading up to the action of the attack would be erased; this would be determined by the power of the balefire attack. The stronger the balefire, the further back in time the object in question will be burned from the pattern. This can have serious consequences on the pattern; the use of an extremely powerful blast of balefire to destroy a great number of lives at once has been shown to produce an effect referred to as a “balescream,” the sound of the Pattern itself groaning under the strain of rearranging itself around such a large gap. An interesting side effect of using balefire is that anyone that causes the “reversal” of time will still remember all the events that were undone as if they had actually happened even if the effects themselves no longer exist.
Perhaps Baelfire will help his dad defeat Peter Pan using the box that Belle holding. Will they try to change the course of time? I’m not sure exactly where I’m going with this or even if Adam and Eddy were inspired by that series to give the son of Rumple a strong name like Baelfire, but it’s very interesting nonetheless. And then RG posted this tweet from Adam Horowitz, which was asked just an hour or so after I’d posted my own theory about the inspiration to use the name Baelfire and a nod to “The Wheel of Time” series:
Baelfire is “a good strong name” according to Rumplestiltskin and as Rumple knows, names carry huge significance. So what is the meaning of Baelfire’s name? Baelfire is Old English for bonfire. What lights the way home? The flame that lights up Baelfire’s constellation map! Also, Baelfire used a match to scare away the Shadow in 2×21 since the shadow fears light. I’m thinking we’ll see Neal, Emma and Hook use fire to fight the shadows in the Dark Hollow according to the promo for 3×7. I’m also thinking that NL is perpetually nighttime because the Shadow has grown so strong that it drowns out daylight in present-day NL. Once the Shadow is defeated, daylight will return.I’m right on board with the name Baelfire having been taking from Wheel of Time. The interesting thing about the weapon Balefire, used in WOT is that Moraine, wields the weapon. We all remember Morraine, Bae’s childhood friend who told him to seek out Reul Ghorm. I talked about this back in my original Peter Pan theory, a year ago September. Here’s the link. https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/i-believe-bae-is-peter-pan-henrys-father/
Adam and Eddy are such fantasy/sci-fi fans, that they like to incorporate bits and pieces of everything in their work. I believe that the Frozen Wheel in LOST was a nod to the books Wheel of Time. Now we’ve got the box with it’s lovely little wheels on it, along with the Alpha & Omega. These guys are so creative!
Slurpeez, wouldn’t it be great if they titled Ep.11 The Sins of the Father? Keeping my fingers crossed. 🙂
Keeper of Pandora's Box & The Yellow Brick Road.
November 8, 2013 at 1:25 pm #222245SlurpeezParticipantSlurpeez, wouldn’t it be great if they titled Ep.11 The Sins of the Father? Keeping my fingers crossed. 🙂
Yes, that would be an excellent title!
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