May 18, 2018 at 9:12 pm #347423RumplesGirlKeymaster
Rumple, mortal, and knowing that he might never get back to Belle, decided to sacrifice his heart to Nook so that the father and daughter could be reunited. What did you think of Rumple’s end? A good one or not?"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 18, 2018 at 9:40 pm #347439AKAParticipant
I liked that he sacrificed his heart to Nook because you do the right thing not for reward but because it is the right thing to do. I don’t understand why he might never get back to Belle because he is mortal I thought that was the whole point? I loved that he got back to Belle and I thought it was well done, I HATE that they did not even mention Bae/Neal. Even if they could not get an actor they could of had Belle simply say “Come on Rumple, your son is waiting” I was so completely disappointed that this did not happen and it really kind of ruined part of the finale for me.May 18, 2018 at 10:06 pm #347444WickedRegalParticipant
I am ultimately proud of Rumple! From Season 1 to now…his character has fully redeemed himself and he brought me to tears with his sacrifice and his happy ending….Bobby Carlyle is phenomenal and has always been one of the greatest in the cast, and I’m just beyond happy that he was our Rumplestilskin.
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn BalorMay 18, 2018 at 10:25 pm #347447RumplesGirlKeymaster
I don’t understand why he might never get back to Belle because he is mortal I thought that was the whole point?
Yeah I didn’t get that either. Nor did I really get how he was made mortal with the stroke of a pen?
But I’m glad he did it because he didn’t want his friend to die and because he didn’t want his adopted daughter to be fatherless, something Rumple understands all too well. Rumple wasn’t even thinking of Belle at that point, it was just about doing what was right. And Regina’s reaction was the most heartbreaking."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 18, 2018 at 10:58 pm #347454bibliophileParticipant
I liked the parallel between how he lost Bae and seeing Nook desperately holding onto Alice, but they really needed to hit the emotional beat better with a few brief flashes from the scene where he lost Baelfire intercut with the Nook/Alice drama and some good slowmo Rumple faces to make the emotion pay off better.
Well that and the big one is that it of course should’ve been Bae trying to hold onto Henry and not Nook/Alice. This show lost so much of it’s heart when they decided to kill Neal.May 18, 2018 at 11:21 pm #347463StahlopParticipant
I loved the sacrifice. It made a lot of sense given the relationship Weaver and Rogers had with each other in Seattle. And with Rumple’s relationship with Alice.
Honestly, I didn’t even think of Neal. I wasn’t on the boards during that time, but I hated Neal (although there may have been some residual feelings from his character on True Blood). But to me he was a side note. Once he was gone I didn’t care and I never expected him to be brought up in this episode.May 19, 2018 at 12:02 am #347474hjbauParticipant
The entire episode i was thinking that Rumpel’s scenes would have made a lot more sense if they had Neal in them, but i think that Rumpel’s arc and actually making a right choice was good. The show does not work without Bae and Rumpel’s character doesn’t work without him, so this second place usage by showing scenes with the new extra characters was as good as they could get at this point.
Rumpel’s actual choices though were good and i liked the ending even if everything surrounding it didn’t work and was really really awkward.May 19, 2018 at 12:20 am #347477MatthewPaulModerator
I think what makes this sacrifice really work is how full circle he’s become as a character. Not only did he finally do the right thing purely for it being the right thing to do, but he did so to save the life of a person he once considered his mortal enemy. He would have obviously sacrificed himself for somebody like Belle or Baelfire in a heartbeat, but Hook? The man he hated for the longest time and even wanted to kill on a few occasions? That takes a ton of character development.May 19, 2018 at 12:39 am #347479hjbauParticipant
Yeah, but i think with Bae, the whole point was that Rumpel wasn’t willing to do anything for Bae, back then. He wouldn’t give up his immortality and his power for Bae, but then now he would do that. I think that is the plot and the change and the arc that would make sense for me.
I don’t think that they showed that fake Hook or real Hook were friends with Rumpel. They just sort of said it in this episode. I don’t even think that a lot of the audience would even make the connection that they were trying to show here to when Rumpel let Bae fall through the portal.May 19, 2018 at 6:31 am #347486bibliophileParticipant
I think what makes this sacrifice really work is how full circle he’s become as a character. Not only did he finally do the right thing purely for it being the right thing to do, but he did so to save the life of a person he once considered his mortal enemy. He would have obviously sacrificed himself for somebody like Belle or Baelfire in a heartbeat, but Hook? The man he hated for the longest time and even wanted to kill on a few occasions? That takes a ton of character development.
Rumple has done ‘the right thing’ many times on the show. They just kept resetting his character every time the show got renewed. He’s even died to save everyone before and I seem to recall (granted I haven’t rewatched this episode) them using that very phase last season when Rumple killed The Black Fairy to save everyone (again).
I really don’t want to be a crank about this, it just bothers me that they (the characters) always treated Rumple like he’s scum and yet he keeps helping them despite the fact he’s got some kind of demon living in his body. And now that he’s dead they suddenly care? It spoils what could have been a beautiful moment between him and Regina when they never had a positive relationship before he died.
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