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May 17, 2016 at 2:48 pm #324051SlurpeezParticipant
Maybe because he just got done with an arc where a God wanted Belle’s baby? And also nabbing Belle is the only leverage someone else would have against the most powerful person in the world.
Yes, seeing how Hades just used Belle and their unborn baby as leverage over Rumple, it isn’t all that surprising from our perspective. We have more knowledge than Rumple did at that point. However, the only things Rumple knew when the portal opened were (a) Hades had already been defeated thanks to Zelena, and (b) Henry and his mommies all wanted that Olympian crystal back. He likely thought the portal was some form of magic created either by Henry’s power as the author or by Henry’s mothers’ combined magic. Rumple didn’t yet know the Charmings were stuck in A Land of Untold Stories, so he had no reason to suspect Mr. Hyde was the one targeting him. Moreover, as much as we collectively give the Charmings a hard time for throwing Belle under the bus (which they did), Rumple had no reason yet to think anyone else besides them knew of Belle being in that box.
What happened to true love being the most powerful magic? Love is strength remember! Even if Rumple didn’t think anyone would go after Belle and instead would go after the crystal, he should still get Belle first. Even though he thinks he needs the crystal, he actually doesn’t! That’s his own flaw sure, and he probably really did think someone would take the crystal. But it’s his lust for power that makes him think that way. He’s more worried someone would take the crystal over taking his wife! If he thought about his wife first, his first instinct would be to protect her, regardless of whether he thought she was in immediate danger. Like if your wife or husband was next to you (in a box or in person), and you knew a portal was coming, wouldn’t your first instinct be to grab her/him? Idk, I just think the writers deliberately wanted us to see Rumple going for the power before Belle. It mirrors his choice for power over his son when he let Bae get sucked into the portal.
100% agreed. Everyone knows Rumple is a man who makes the same mistake over and over. Rumple already tried TLK but it failed. He probably thinks it’s because Belle doesn’t want to be with him anymore (as Emma expressed). Even after Belle spelled it out for him when she banished him, Rumple still doesn’t seem to grasp the real reason TLK didn’t work (i.e. because his true love is power).
Which makes me feel like he truly hasn’t learned anything, and also makes me think Rumple is in line to lose someone else he loves yet again which will drive him completely to the side of darkness.
While I don’t think he really has learned anything (seeing how he keeps choosing power over Belle), I think he really does justify it by telling himself (and Belle in the box) that everything he’s done, he’s done to help her and the baby. However, I think there will come a time when Rumple will finally choose Belle and the baby over the power and that is when TLK will work. I don’t think he’ll get to experience a happy ending, but he’ll probalby die a hero or something (again).
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May 17, 2016 at 3:18 pm #324053thedarkonedearieParticipantYes, seeing how Hades just used Belle and their unborn baby as leverage over Rumple, it isn’t all that surprising from our perspective. We have more knowledge than Rumple did at that point. However, the only things Rumple knew when the portal opened were (a) Hades had already been defeated thanks to Zelena, and (b) Henry and his mommies all wanted that Olympian crystal back. He likely thought the portal was some form of magic created either by Henry’s power as the author or by Henry’s mothers’ combined magic. Rumple didn’t yet know the Charmings were stuck in A Land of Untold Stories, so he had no reason to suspect Mr. Hyde was the one targeting him. Moreover, as much as we collectively give the Charmings a hard time for throwing Belle under the bus (which they did), Rumple had no reason yet to think anyone else besides them knew of Belle being in that box.
Well sure but maybe the portal was just a portal. Why does it have to equate to someone wanting to steal something. At the end of the day, a portal was opening up, and my first instinct would be not to get uscked up into it, and if I did, I would want what matters most to me. So Rumple knew a portal was coming, but certainly didn’t know someone was trying to steal anything. Hypothetically, if I knew a portal was opening up, I would grab what was dear to me, not necessarily what I thought had the greater potential of being stolen.
While I don’t think he really has learned anything (seeing how he keeps choosing power over Belle), I think he really does justify it by telling himself (and Belle in the box) that everything he’s done, he’s done to help her and the baby. However, I think there will come a time when Rumple will finally choose Belle and the baby over the power and that is when TLK will work. I don’t think he’ll get to experience a happy ending, but he’ll probably die a hero or something (again).
See I kinda of want Rumple to just be evil now because I’m sick of the flip floppiness. But I think for that truly to happen, he would have to go overboard, and the only way I see that happening is if Belle dies. So that’s what I want. But if that doesn’t happen, I suppose I’ll settle for Rumple dying a hero yet again or giving up his darkness finally for her.
May 17, 2016 at 9:36 pm #324075RumplesGirlKeymasterThe girl needs better friends
The girl needs friends.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"May 17, 2016 at 9:53 pm #324081KebParticipantThe girl needs enough screentime to interact with the friends she theoretically has made. I’m still mad that they didn’t let her say goodbye to Anna and see that she was okay. And the chemistry with her and Henry in the tiny moments they’ve shared was so beautiful…those characters SHOULD be family. Charming and Hook have both got reasons to care about her, and history with her. Everyone else is on forgotten character island that she’s befriended, but it’s ridiculous how shunted to the side she’s been (even allowing for the pregnancy this half-season).
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