Sneak Peeks 222!!

[RumplesGirl]

Keb wrote:I do think that Rumple accepting blame and not passing it off to others is a real sign of change in him, though. Every other time we’ve seen him dealing with stuff, he passes on the blame that we know is aimed at himself to someone else–the BF, the Seer, Milah, Hook, Moe, Regina, Keith–but this time, he tells the Charmings that it’s his fault. And that he’s ready to accept the price.

So true! Ladies and gents, I do believe we have our “game-changer”.

You’re totally right! This is a big change for Rumple! And if he does come around and help save the town and then goes after Henry to save him (still thinking Bae is dead but wanting to save his son’s son) …total game changer.

This is what I think will happen with the mermaid thing: Emma will have to kill Ursula, like PC did to the siren in the lake but again I could be wrong. 😕

Maybe all the ladies team up: Emma, Snow, Belle and even Regina to take down Ursula while the boys: Rumple, Charming, Hook and Bae take down the Shadow because the two are working together.

[Keb]

He even blamed Henry when he got Hooked. It really is a big change.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[RumplesGirl]

@Keb wrote:

He even blamed Henry when he got Hooked. It really is a big change.

Exactly. Bae’s death isn’t Tamara’s fault or the Charmings or Henry or Emma’s. He say it is his: “I killed my son.” 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 *sigh* I far too many feeling about this man.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[MysteryKat25]

Wow, just….wow! I came back and there’s lots more sneaks than expected!

Rumple & the Charmings – that whole scene was just…*sniff*; we see Emma telling Henry (once again off to the side, just seeing it while somebody else is in focus but I think that actually works well and we’re bound to get Henry’s reaction later on, poor little guy) and Rumple…poor Rumple.

Rumple, I know you’re hurting and you DO have a lot to answer for because of all the things you did to get him here but NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO STOP DOING MAGIC. You need to save the rest of your family! Bae would not want them all to die because you blame yourself at the wrong time.

Hopefully he’ll channel some of that toward a more appropriate channel, ie; Tamara and save the self-loathing for later.

Hook & Charming – yay, they’re working together! Did they really think that Greg was by himself and they had him cornered? Really? Tamara is the dangerous one here guys! And you apparently know this from Emma since you told Rumple that Tamara shot Neal. *sigh* At least they’re fighting TOGETHER and Hook, though once again on the floor *double sigh* is fighting to get the failsafe from Greg so he’s obviously chosen a side yay!!!

Hook & Bae – SO MUCH IN THIS! Where to start….

Ok so Bae, to start with, is being held captive but that actually makes sense as it’s a pirate ship and they don’t know him – at least they went to talk to him fairly early it seems, and he’s not tied up just being kept down there until they can analyze the situation – probably normal procedure on a pirate ship, never know who to trust, especially when you’re new in town and there’s a shadow stealing people all over the place lol.

Bae was rescued from “the curse of the mermaids” ?? That could mean so many things! Ideas so far:

1) The mermaids are a “curse” that Neverland has to endure (they are not nice creatures, though 1 *cough* Ariel *cough* could prove Hook / somebody else wrong
2) If you stay in the water too long / die in the water perhaps? Then you become a mermaid and are therefore “cursed” – perhaps in this story Ariel was once human, was somehow cursed to be a mermaid to survive and mermaids are inherently mean and she doesn’t want to be that anymore? Just a thought

Still an interesting line and I can’t wait to see how mermaids factor in to everything (we are totally getting mermaids in S3! We have to, too many mentions of it lately, especially with Neverland stuff).

And then there’s the turning point: Hook realizes who Bae is. Hook realizes who Bae is. I seriously think that until this moment he has no clue what to do with this kid but he’s intrigued by him. Bae mouths off, has obviously had some connection to pirates before (even though he’s wrong about the circumstances) and isn’t afraid to say he doesn’t like them.

Hook asks what happened to his dad and he says he left him *sniff* and calls him a COWARD! The look on Hook’s face, I just…did you SEE that look?? Wonder if he’s going to tell Bae the truth at some point (probably – will help down the line for Neal not wanting to see Rumple again and it would be the TRUTH which Bae deserves to know. Kinda sad when you think about it actually – the pirate will be honest with him where his father failed to be. And we’re not talking Dark One Rumple lied, we’re talking pre-Dark One Rumple, when Bae was a boy and his mother was gone. He spent his whole childhood thinking his mother was killed by pirates.)

I really think that after that moment we’ll see Hook be MUCH kinder to him. I still don’t think he has a clue what to do with kids, but Bae is old enough that he can learn a lot of things like driving the ship and swordfighting so I think Hook will find a way to have some fun with it and hopefully teach him stuff (like more about the mermaids??). Hook couldn’t destroy the shawl because Milah made it. He just realized this is Milah’s son (and also the son of the man that he hates – BUT the key here is that he is Milah’s son too and I think that Hook will see a lot more of Milah in him than he does Rumple and will bond with Bae over what happened and they will get along for a time at least).

SO EXCITED to see Hook actually working with the good guys for once and watching him bond with young Bae is going to be awesome! So many feelings right now, so many!

I’ve been begggggging for them to show a different side to him so that people will stop saying Hook fans are delusional for seeing any ounce of goodness in him back from Tallahassee but the way he spoke of the lost boys gives me hope that he’s not really as bad as people think. We can’t presume to know what the OUAT version of a story will be just because we know the classics. Bring on a softer, gentler Hook and one who is fighting with the good guys rather than against them! (Oh and Neverland. Bring on Neverland too!)

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

[Keb]

I think that, like Emma, Rumple felt the truth of what happened to Bae’s missing parent would be too painful for Bae. Rumple may have only suspected that Milah left willingly, but for her to have left Bae at all was more painful than to tell Bae that she was dead. Maybe he was trying to convince himself of that. Likewise, Emma was trying to move on from Neal and didn’t want Henry to know that both of his bioparents were less than honorable people at one point–she wanted him to have heroes to look up to, and felt like she wasn’t good enough to be that hero–and Neal-who-left-her-to-be-arrested certainly wasn’t.

If only she’d known the whole truth, she might have made different choices; Rumple, though, probably would have stuck with saying that Milah was dead.

Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharing

[RumplesGirl]

Hook asks what happened to his dad and he says he left him *sniff* and calls him a COWARD! The look on Hook’s face, I just…did you SEE that look?? Wonder if he’s going to tell Bae the truth at some point (probably – will help down the line for Neal not wanting to see Rumple again and it would be the TRUTH which Bae deserves to know. Kinda sad when you think about it actually – the pirate will be honest with him where his father failed to be. And we’re not talking Dark One Rumple lied, we’re talking pre-Dark One Rumple, when Bae was a boy and his mother was gone. He spent his whole childhood thinking his mother was killed by pirates.)

I think Hook will wait to tell Bae about Milah until the last possible moment. Right when he needs Bae on his side for something.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[lisas]

Wow 3 sneak peeks already Thank you ABC.

Thanks RG for finding these.

Okay Sneak Peek # 4 – I got the impression that once young Bae said his mother was killed by a pirate and his father is a coward Hook suspected that this was Milah’s son. I think he got that confirmation when Bae told Hook his name is Baelfire

Sneak Peek # 3 – I had a feeling that Hook would change sides once he realized that GOAT wanted to kill everyone in Storybrooke including himself. Now I’m curious just how he approaches Charming. I do believe that this fight between Greg and Hook is how Hook is able to get one of the beans.

Sneak Peek # 2 – The utter shock along with the pain & despair that Rumple expresses in this scene is shown in his expressions and his words, Robert Carlyle is absolutely amazing during this scene. I do not see Rumple going after Henry over the prophecy now. Henry is his only link to Neal and I believe that he will now do everything he can to protect Henry. I think he will tell Lacey what has happened and he can’t be with her because he once again made the wrong choice and has now lost his son forever and that he can longer be with her. I think that will bring Belle to the surface and she will convince Rumple that if he want any part of Neal to survive he must work with the Charmings, Emma, Henry, Regina and Hook to stop GOAT and avenge Bae’s “Death” by gelping them hunt down GOAT. I think once GOAT kidnaps Henry he is going to be ready to go help hunt down GOAT. I think these factors alone will force Rumple into an uneasy truce with Hook to go search for Henry.

Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick

[Demileto]

Wow. Just wow. I think this must be first time I wish I didn’t get a sneak peek this spoilery, that’s how painful and shocking it is to me to see Gold feeling so broken he’s lost the will to live. I had to control myself not to cry in the middle of my job! I hope he can find new strength by being the parental figure to Henry that he didn’t get to be with Neal.

@Keb wrote:

If it’s NOT TLK that brings Belle back

I’ve been thinking about this and I believe that the real Belle’ll come back as a consequence of Emma and Regina preventing the destruction of Storybrooke. I think that, by doing this, they’ll obliterate the leftovers of the curse that still plague the town, like the barrier of forgetfulness, which, in turn, will restore the memories of those who lost them due to it, namely Belle and Sneezy.

@AngieBelle wrote:

I wonder if we are going to see the true meaning of Henry being Rumple’s undoing before the season ends or if that will still be up in the air.

The producers said this’ll come into play this season, so yes. 🙂

@PriceofMagic wrote:

Didn’t E and A say at Paleyfest that Rumple’s undoing doesn’t necessarily mean a bad thing? Henry is now Rumple’s last link with Bae. What if Rumple is spurred into action by the news that GOAT have kidnapped Henry. Tamara took Bae from him, she sure as Hell isn’t going to take Henry too. That kind of thing.

I agree, Rumple’s undoing is totally going to come as an attempt of his to prevent GOAT taking Henry from him the same way they did Bae;

@Phee wrote:

And here I thought I was the only one who still believes that SB won’t go BOOM.

You never were, I never believed it either. 😉

@Phee wrote:

So true! Ladies and gents, I do believe we have our “game-changer”.

That does qualify a lot, doesn’t it? 🙂

[Phee]

@MysteryKat25 wrote:

Ok so Bae, to start with, is being held captive but that actually makes sense as it’s a pirate ship and they don’t know him – at least they went to talk to him fairly early it seems, and he’s not tied up just being kept down there until they can analyze the situation –

They even gave him a blanket to wrap around himself. Such gracious hosts. 😉

Hook asks what happened to his dad and he says he left him *sniff* and calls him a COWARD! The look on Hook’s face, I just…did you SEE that look?? Wonder if he’s going to tell Bae the truth at some point

I’m in two minds about this. On the one hand, Hook dropping that bomb could have led to their relationship turning sour, which is why they ended up in different worlds, and why Nealfire didn’t feel bad about leaving him tied up in NYC. On the other hand, I think he’d have brought it up with Rumple by now if he knew.

I really think that after that moment we’ll see Hook be MUCH kinder to him. I still don’t think he has a clue what to do with kids, but Bae is old enough that he can learn a lot of things like driving the ship and swordfighting so I think Hook will find a way to have some fun with it and hopefully teach him stuff (like more about the mermaids??). Hook couldn’t destroy the shawl because Milah made it. He just realized this is Milah’s son (and also the son of the man that he hates – BUT the key here is that he is Milah’s son too and I think that Hook will see a lot more of Milah in him than he does Rumple and will bond with Bae over what happened and they will get along for a time at least).

I think he’s already seeing some of Milah’s spunk in this kid. And if he sacrificed himself to save others, then that means he doesn’t have the coward gene. I really think that Hook will look at Bae more as his mother’s son than his father’s. But at the same time, he could be a valuable tool to use in his quest for vengeance. Dilemma much.

@Demileto wrote:

Phee wrote:And here I thought I was the only one who still believes that SB won’t go BOOM.

You never were, I never believed it either. 😉

Ah good to know there are still a few of us optimists floating around. 🙂

[MysteryKat25]

I could see that RG. He’s gotta win Bae’s trust somehow though and right now Bae is sitting in the brig hating pirates and blaming them for his childhood. In his eyes, if pirates hadn’t killed his mother, his father wouldn’t be the way he was and he would have grown up with both his parents. He probably even thinks that Milah would have been able to do what he couldn’t and convince Rumple not to use the Dark One powers.

I think something has to happen for Hook and Bae to go from I hate pirates to let me teach you how to drive the ship and swordfight.

That’s not to say that something doesn’t happen very shortly after that clip but I feel like he has to learn that info soon. Otherwise why wouldn’t he take the first chance he got to hop off that boat? (Depending on how far out at sea it is he may worry about the curse of the mermaids but still, he has to learn at some point if he’s going to tell Hook how much he hates him one minute and then be buddy-buddy the next.)

Hook may try to be kinder to him the moment he realizes who Bae is whether Bae understands why he softens or not, I just don’t see how Bae would willingly go and learn how to be a pirate so fast unless something big happens, like Hook reacting to who he must be.

On the other hand, maybe Hook just softens and gives him a regular room and just says something like “not all the stories are true” and leaves it at that for now with something for Bae to think about and then Bae ventures out and explores and Hook takes a moment to teach him how to drive or something and they start bonding just a little bit (we know that at some point Hook teaches Bae to drive the ship because he knows how later on).

So they could have little tiny almost bonding things with Bae still being leery / resentful until something big happens (like if the ship is attacked and Hook makes a point of protecting him or something and they get into a big thing about it and he says something about Milah – either that or Bae will run into him some time when he’s looking at the tattoo or something and Bae will see it, that could happen too).

I have a feeling that things are still SUPER raw for Hook as this is early going for losing Milah and having her son suddenly appear is going to flood him with all kinds of emotions. He may get very sentimental / very quiet (like he did when Emma saw his tattoo) and he could very well be looking at it sometime soon after finding out who Bae is and then Bae sees it.

I agree Lisa – I think that fight is how Hook is able to swipe a bean. We’ve seen he’s good with it before (even if he did lose a hand in the process, poor guy couldn’t catch a break) and we know the good guys need one at some point.

I like the idea that he triggers Belle’s memories by trying to give her up because he’s so down and feels unworthy and that she’s the one that convinces him to help. I think you’re right about the Henry angle too because that is all he has left of Neal now and if there’s one thing Rumple doesn’t allow it’s people messing with his family. I’m surprised he hasn’t gone after Tamara yet but this is just his initial reaction, he’s absolutely gutted and he blames himself. He needs to snap out of it for a second to get some justice and I think the Henry stuff will do just that. He’s already lost Neal (or so he thinks) and I don’t think he’s ok with losing Henry.

Which reminds me…did Snow say that “anyone not born here” will be killed? Does that mean that Henry would be all by himself in SB? He’s the only one born in the outside world….I feel like there was a reason that Snow explained it like that but there aren’t many people around that weren’t born here other than Greg and Tamara as far as we know at least. So SB gets wiped off the map leaving Henry with GOAT regardless? That’s not a good plan either, Rumple should realize that (though he’s admittedly not thinking straight right now).

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

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