Sneak Peeks 222!!

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

So, I really think the only way Rumple could become the same good man he used to be is 1) Tamara zapped him with his taser so that he lost his magic (but survived) 2) He went to live outside of SB where there is no magic or 3) Rumple and Belle return to the EF where TLK can break any curse.

Hmmm. But that’s so passive. I want him to be actor in his redemption story, not the object that something is done to in order to elicit a change. The second option seems a bit more active but I don’t think Rumple wants to stay in this land unless Belle and Bae stay too. Retuning to FTL seems more like a S4/S5 thing so in the meantime I’d like for him to try on his own, with the help of Bae and Belle.

I hear you, and I wish that, too. However, Rumple is plagued by a curse. He cannot willingly lay it aside or walk away from magic as Regina could. It’s like trying to wish away diabetes without taking insulin. Even when he was living in SB without magic (after Emma arrived), we saw Mr. Gold struggle with his own dark nature (e.g. when he tried to take Ashley’s baby or when he beat up Moe French). Without receiving a cure from TLK, the best Rumple could hope to achieve is to live without magic in say, Boston, NYC, or wherever, and just try to control his temper. But he wouldn’t really be “cured” Yet, as you said, he wouldn’t do that without Bae or Belle by his side, who are his support team. Rumple will forever be tempted by dark magic so long as he is the Dark One, and only a TLK could really cure him of that. So, his best hope is to return to the EF and kiss Belle (after she gets her memories back, which had better be Sunday).

[angiebelle]

Hm…so it seems Hook wants to send Bae to the shadow!

I was just thinking- I bet Emma’s powers come into play and that she will help Regina stop the failsafe.

[RumplesGirl]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

In other news!!

Sneak peek 6
http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/05/once-upon-time-episode-222-and-straight_4121.html

Ooooooooookay.

Reposting because we changed pages. If anyone finds a YT link please post it here so I can add it to the first page.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[RumplesGirl]

Also: Colin just tweeted that he might live tweet the finale on Sunday. Even though he’s in Ireland. He’s clearly excited for this.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

And while they may think they can harness their magic towards doing the right thing, I believe it’s impossible for either one to do magic without giving into a lust for power and domination (which is what dark magic seems to be vs. light magic which is protective and selfless

Really? I don’t agree. If we look at their addiction to magic like any other addiction, are we saying it’s always hopeless. Can an alcoholic literally never be in the same room as a bottle without giving in? It’s self control. They have to learn that too. They have to learn that they can’t use magic to solve all their problems and then resist the urge to use it to get what they want.

I agree that an alcoholic can regain self-control and not drink, but that’s my point. They must abstain from alcohol completely to make sure they don’t ever lose control again. At AA meetings, they say that any recovered alcoholic is still an alcoholic; they cannot every drink alcohol again or else they will lose control. The problem for Regina is that she is a magicaholic. She cannot do magic, or else it will consume her. As for Rumple, he can’t not be dark, because he is the Dark One; it’s actually apart of his nature. So, he needs a cure.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[angiebelle]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

And while they may think they can harness their magic towards doing the right thing, I believe it’s impossible for either one to do magic without giving into a lust for power and domination (which is what dark magic seems to be vs. light magic which is protective and selfless

Really? I don’t agree. If we look at their addiction to magic like any other addiction, are we saying it’s always hopeless. Can an alcoholic literally never be in the same room as a bottle without giving in? It’s self control. They have to learn that too. They have to learn that they can’t use magic to solve all their problems and then resist the urge to use it to get what they want.

I agree that an alcoholic can regain self-control and not drink, but that’s my point. They must abstain from alcohol completely to make sure they don’t ever lose control again. At AA meetings, they say that any recovered alcoholic is still an alcoholic; they cannot every drink alcohol again or else they will lose control. The problem for Regina is that she is a magicaholic. She cannot do magic, or else it will consume her. As for Rumple, he can’t not be dark, because he is the Dark One; it’s actually apart of his nature. So, he needs a cure.

What I want to know is why is he able to kiss Belle in Storybrooke without breaking the Dark One curse as started to happen when she kissed him at his castle?

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

In other news!!

Sneak peek 6
http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/05/once-upon-time-episode-222-and-straight_4121.html

Ooooooooookay.

Reposting because we changed pages. If anyone finds a YT link please post it here so I can add it to the first page.

Thanks for posting! So, I think this scene happens after Baelfire is pulled from the sea but before Captain Hook interviews the boy. I think after Hook learns Bae’s identity is when he decides to make the boy part of his crew. As Milha’s son, Bae is Hook’s last link to his lost love. As Rumple’s son, Bae is the key to potentially taking down his enemy, Rumplestiltskin. So, Hook will want to keep Bae for himself once he learns his true identity.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

@slurpeez108 wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

And while they may think they can harness their magic towards doing the right thing, I believe it’s impossible for either one to do magic without giving into a lust for power and domination (which is what dark magic seems to be vs. light magic which is protective and selfless

Really? I don’t agree. If we look at their addiction to magic like any other addiction, are we saying it’s always hopeless. Can an alcoholic literally never be in the same room as a bottle without giving in? It’s self control. They have to learn that too. They have to learn that they can’t use magic to solve all their problems and then resist the urge to use it to get what they want.

I agree that an alcoholic can regain self-control and not drink, but that’s my point. They must abstain from alcohol completely to make sure they don’t ever lose control again. At AA meetings, they say that any recovered alcoholic is still an alcoholic; they cannot every drink alcohol again or else they will lose control. The problem for Regina is that she is a magicaholic. She cannot do magic, or else it will consume her. As for Rumple, he can’t not be dark, because he is the Dark One; it’s actually apart of his nature. So, he needs a cure.

I do know what you’re saying but in some ways I think we may be comparing apples to oranges (my fault, I brought it up). Changing gears: from a story telling perspective, having Rumple and Regina give up magic entirely puts all the magical doings squarely on the shoulders of Emma, who hasn’t mastered anything yet and needs to be properly trained. (now granted another wizard or what not could show up to teach her, but since we don’t know that to be the case…let’s stick with what we have, yes?) I think diminishing the amount of magical characters on this show might be ill advised. Emma has to learn somehow. And even if Rumple is teaching her, so long as he remembers what it was like to lose Bae and Belle and he has both of them, I think he can fight it. The reason he went so dark recently was because he felt he had lost so much, again. The same with Regina. She went dark after she realized she was “losing” Henry (whether or not she was is debatable) and then after she lost her mother (who totally deserved it in my eyes, but not in Regina’s.) If they can come together as a family, work together, keep each other strong then I don’t see why the two of them can’t try to fight on the good side using their magic.

Gosh. I went and got all sentimental.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

@AngieBelle wrote:

What I want to know is why is he able to kiss Belle in Storybrooke without breaking the Dark One curse as started to happen when she kissed him at his castle?

Yes, I’m keen to know that as well. We’ve seen Rumple and Belle kiss in SB in “Broken.” Why didn’t it work? I know magic works differently in our world, but I want to know the specifics. Belle didn’t even question why TLK didn’t work. Why didn’t she ask Rumple?

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

What I want to know is why is he able to kiss Belle in Storybrooke without breaking the Dark One curse as started to happen when she kissed him at his castle?

I believe it’s because magic works differently here. TLK can wake you up from a sleeping curse, but it can’t break something as dramatic as the Dark One’s Curse.

Thanks for posting! So, I think this scene happens after Baelfire is pulled from the sea but before Captain Hook interviews the boy. I think after Hook learns Bae’s identity is when he decides to make the boy part of his crew. As Milha’s son, Bae is Hook’s last link to his lost love. As Rumple’s son, Bae is the key to potentially taking down his enemy, Rumplestiltskin. So, Hook will want to keep Bae for himself once he learns his true identity.

I get the feeling this is the opening shot of the episode.
Yes, learning who Bae is will change Hook’s initial plan.

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