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Spoilers for 2×22

Home › Forums › Once Upon a Time › Season Two › 2×22 "… and Straight on til Morning" › Spoilers for 2×22

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  • April 26, 2013 at 5:39 pm #188940
    RumplesGirl
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    I think I basically ship Hook with anyone who isn’t Emma. lol.

    I’m more in favor of Hook/Regina than him with anyone else, though.

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    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 26, 2013 at 5:41 pm #188941
    HappyEndings
    Spectator

    @RumplesGirl wrote:

    I think I basically ship Hook with anyone who isn’t Emma. lol.

    I’m more in favor of Hook/Regina than him with anyone else, though.

    Thank you I thought it was just me 😀

    April 26, 2013 at 6:10 pm #188947
    kfchimera
    Participant

    Sorry this will be long–haven’t time to edit it short 😛

    HappyEndings– Hook didn’t steal Milah. She was not a possession. She made a choice to leave Rumpel because she was unhappy. If you fault Hook for anything there, it is he chose to fall for the kind of woman who would leave her son, and a woman who didn’t have the courage to break up with her husband.

    As for murderous, Mermaids in Neverland are too.

    Wendy: What? Are mermaids not sweet?
    Peter: They’ll sweetly drown you if you get too close

    On Nealfire not being brave enough, we’ve disagreed about that in terms of physical bravery and fighting. There are a few lines in the play of Peter Pan that are interesting to consider for his character too.
    Barie wrote in Peter Pan:

    Mrs. Darling: There are many different kinds of bravery. There’s the bravery of thinking of others before one’s self. Now, your father has never brandished a sword nor fired a pistol, thank heavens. But he has made many sacrifices for his family, and put away many dreams.

    Michael: Where did he put them?

    Mrs. Darling: He put them in a drawer. And sometimes, late at night, we take them out and admire them. But it gets harder and harder to close the drawer… He does. And that is why he is brave.

    Or this–

    It was then that Hook bit him.
    Not the pain of this but its unfairness was what dazed Peter. It made him quite helpless. He could only stare, horrified. Every child is affected thus the first time he is treated unfairly. All he thinks he has a right to when he comes to you to be yours is fairness. After you have been unfair to him he will love you again, but he will never afterwards be quite the same boy. No one ever gets over the first unfairness; no one except Peter.”
    ― J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan

    Has Neal gotten over the unfairness of his father breaking their deal? He hadn’t when they met in Manhattan–he ran not out of fear but out of anger. When he thought Rumpel might harm Emma, for breaking the deal, he was waiting and did not hesitate to step in, and then ordered Rumpel out. He grudgingly gave him 3 minutes to talk. I didn’t see that as a guy afraid, but definitely it was not a guy who got over it.

    So quite possibly, he isn’t Peter, not because he’s not brave enough, but because he is not carefree enough. Neal has a lot of worries, guilt and anger. Yet if Peter Pan did grow up, would he not change in that process?

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    April 27, 2013 at 2:49 am #189088
    Phee
    Participant

    @RumplesGirl wrote:

    @HappyEndings wrote:

    I think you are wrong on Hook, he is what 200 to 300 years old and Ariel is about 15 to 16 years old that is too much of an age difference I believe.

    The way I see it, it’s a bit like Rumbelle. Rumple has lived for 300 years but he hasn’t aged, so thus he’s still about 45 to Belle’s 28-30. Hook is maybe 28-30ish, but hasn’t aged in 250+ years, and it depends on how old A and E make their Ariel. In the Disney movie she’s 16, but they could make the OUAT Ariel 18 or so.

    Yes, it’s exactly like Rumbelle. The actress we’ve been discussing most likely playing Ariel, she is 19. It’s actually a bit wrong that Disney had their Ariel being so young…because the girl got married…at 16.

    @HappyEndings wrote:

    In any case why would you want Ariel to be hooked up with a murder, wife stealing priate where would they live on his ship ❓

    I think Regina and Hook would be a better match. Hopefully, someone else for Ariel.

    Obviously, I don’t see Hook in such simple terms. And I think it’s incredibly fitting and romantic for the man who has dedicated his life to the sea to fall in love with a girl who came from the sea. The sea is a part of him, and she’s a part of the sea. It’s a perfect match.

    April 28, 2013 at 2:38 am #189234
    HappyEndings
    Spectator

    Question: So if they all go to Netherland where is everyone going to leave on Hook’s ship ❓ At least in FL Snow has her castle.

    April 28, 2013 at 3:49 am #189244
    beastwhisperer
    Participant

    @HappyEndings wrote:

    Question: So if they all go to Netherland where is everyone going to leave on Hook’s ship ❓ At least in FL Snow has her castle.

    Whoever stays aligned with Hook will probably stay on the ship. The rest could stay with the Lost Boys, or with Tiger Lily, or something. Snow’s really good with camping.

    April 28, 2013 at 3:52 am #189245
    kfchimera
    Participant

    They have dwarves who love to work and magic. I’m sure they can manage a hut if not something nicer.

    “If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass

    April 28, 2013 at 1:32 pm #189297
    RumplesGirl
    Keymaster

    The Lost Boys also had tree houses or something didn’t they?

    "He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"
    April 28, 2013 at 3:20 pm #189316
    beastwhisperer
    Participant

    @RumplesGirl wrote:

    The Lost Boys also had tree houses or something didn’t they?

    Actully, I think it was the underground tree house, dug under the roots of a giant tree. After they left with Wendy, Wendy’s house was moved into the treetops for Peter to live by the fairies. I could be remembering wrong though. And Tiger Lily’s people would have had wigwams or tipis. Probably tipis.

    April 28, 2013 at 4:22 pm #189322
    laurieanne
    Participant

    @BeastWhisperer wrote:

    @RumplesGirl wrote:

    The Lost Boys also had tree houses or something didn’t they?

    Actully, I think it was the underground tree house, dug under the roots of a giant tree. After they left with Wendy, Wendy’s house was moved into the treetops for Peter to live by the fairies. I could be remembering wrong though. And Tiger Lily’s people would have had wigwams or tipis. Probably tipis.

    That is right- their house was underground. They did build a house for Wendy but that was above ground. I remember her telling stories to Pater and the boys, but I think that was in the underground house. She probably slept in her own house (early 1900’s propriety) but spent most of the time in the other place. Once Hook and the pirates discovered the location of the underground house, it was easy to catch the boys and Wendy as they came up. All they had to do was grab them as they came up through a tree stump, as I recall. However, remembering that this is ONCE, we can probably expect to see any variation on the story,location, dwellings , people etc. That’s what I love about it – the unexpected!

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