Spoilers for 2×22

[RumplesGirl]

@MysteryKat25 wrote:

In The Crocodile they did go to Neverland right after burying Milah at sea but I was referring more to those missing years when we know Milah was with Killian – more of a has he / they been there before so he was going back? Or did he only choose to go there because he knew of the time stopping thing?

I’m guessing if he was ever there before it was as a child / lost boy? so Milah wouldn’t have ever been there with them and they likely just sailed the seas together but we still have those missing years to deal with so not officially ruling it out (though it is unlikely…if he could have had forever with the one he loved without aging and if they were happy there why leave?)

I think when Milah left Rumple for Hook, they sailed around FTL, but didn’t go to other realms. I think he went back to Neverland after Milah died because, like yous said, the time stopping thing. Awful long time to plan revenge. So I don’t think Milah was ever in Neverland. Now, the big game changer could be, I suppose, that Milah and Hook were in Neverland together and Bae was living with them like a big family, but I don’t think that fits with the last conversation Milah and Rumple had:

Rumpelstiltskin: You left him! You abandoned him!

Milah: And there’s not a day that goes by that I don’t feel sorry for that.

So I don’t think Milah ever saw Bae again.

The game changer could be that Bae has been popping in and out of FTL since he left at the age of 14. That all this time Rumple’s been looking for him, Bae’s been keeping an eye on Papastiltskin and staying clear of him. However, given how “good” Bae appears to be I find this unlikely because if he knew the lengths Rumple was going to, the Curse and how much damage it was going to do to everyone in FTL, I think Bae would have intervened.
So, the game changer is probably going to be about Bae and Hook and their relationship which I think is going to be more of a father and son than mortal enemies.

[vampirefan12]

There are some fans that think the game-changer will be Baelfire dying and in season 3 Rumpel is going to be the big bad of the season because of his son’s death.

[lisas]

@Vampirefan12 wrote:

There are some fans that think the game-changer will be Baelfire dying and in season 3 Rumpel is going to be the big bad of the season because of his son’s death.

I don’t think that will happen. Here is my theory

What I suspect will happen is that the seer’s prediction back in episode 14 “Manhattan” about a young boy being Rumple’s undoing will come into play at some point either in episode 21 or 22 along with Regina’s quest for revenge on Snow and also Hook looking for revenge on Rumple for Milah’s death could spark a trip to Neverland for Neal, Emma, Henry, David and Snow. I think the game-changer for Rumple & Neal/Bae will be 2 things 1. That he will discover most likely from Hook that Rumple killed his mother Milah. 2 That Rumple may out of fear of losing his power could go after Henry and try to kill him. Meanwhile on the other hand you’ve got Regina who I’m sure will most likely figure out that Rumple also had a hand in orchestrating Cora’s demise by manipulating Snow with that candle. I think despite whatever happens between Snow & Regina in episode 2×17 “Welcome To Storybrooke Regina is going continously to want to make Snow pay for killing her mother Cora. I really think that she could even go as far as also wanting to make Rumple play as well so I wouldn’t be surprised if Regina decided to go after David, Emma, Neal and possibly Henry as well. What did Rumple say to Emma, Henry, David in the promo for 2×17 “Welcome To Storybrooke” ? Something about a blood feud and Emma told him he had to stop her. I would like to think that she wouldn’t go after Henry but given this thing about a blood feud I think it’s possible she could because Henry is the grandson of both Snow & Rumple who both had a hand in killing her mother.

I don’t think it’s too far out of the realm of possibility that Neal,Emma,Henry, David & Snow wind up in Neverland somehow with Rumple & Belle following them as well. Leaving Regina & Hook to cause a reign of terror for those left in Storybrooke. I think the game-changer for Neal & Rumple will be either he finds out from Hook about Rumple killing Milah or if Rumple tries to harm Henry. Which I can’t see that happening. I think the boy that will be Rumple’s undoing will be Peter Pan. Adam & Eddie did say we wouldn’t see Peter Pan this season so I’m guessing we’ll see him in Season 3 in the fall. I’m willing to bet that Neal’s past in Neverland was that as a lost boy and that is how he knows Hook.

Is this theory too outlandish ?

Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick

[RumplesGirl]

Lisa: this is OUaT. No theory is too outlandish. 🙂

I agree that part of the game changer has to be Bae learning Milha’s fate. That has to come up because Rumple has a lot to atone for starting with the the pain he caused Bae and once Bae learns of Milah, that pain is going to grow by leaps and bounds.
But I question if Rumple will truly go after Henry. After the Miller’s Daughter and that wonderful moment between NealFire and Papastiltskin (which I can’t watch without feeling gutted…seriously someone give RC and award and make MRJ a full cast member!) I think Rumple is going to be on is best behavior so as not to destroy this tiny flicker of hope in regards to his son.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[lisas]

RG I can’t see Rumple hurting Henry either because for all intensive purposes he & Baelfire just made amends so I can’t Rumple doing anything that would risk his relationship with his son and going after his own grandson would definitely destroy this new relationship with his son & grandson. I agree with you Robert Carlyle definitely deserves the best actor award for his role as Rumpelstiltskin his portrayal of that character has been outstanding. Adam & Eddy need to make MRJ a series regular this fall. I just love him as Neil/Bae

Keeper of Neal/BaelFire's Blood Magic, Neverland Crossbow, FTL Clothes,Room at Granny’s, Charming & Emma’s Father/Daughter Hugs, Henry's Neverland Crossbow, Rumplestlitskin/Mr.Gold's FTL Walking Stick

[Slurpeez]

On a different note, it looks like there’s hope for Sneezy (and by extension, Belle) to get his memories back! 🙂

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

In another thread someone is speculating that both Sneezy and Belle will get their memories back with the help of Lake Nostos. What if the water from the well will also help speed up the growth of the magic beans Anton brought over? We may see a lot more action at the well in these last few episodes.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

Going home: With Snow White unsure whether Emma would go back to fairy tale land, it’s up to Charming to try to get his whole family home. “It’s his home and it’s where his soul is,” Dallas says. “The fact that he could have all his family there together is even better. He’s got a plan that’s underway right now that will hopefully get them back at some point. He’s definitely going to try to convince as many of his family members as possible to come with him.”http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Spoilers-1062819.aspx

STAR-CROSSED LOVERS? NOW THAT NEAL (MICHAEL RAYMOND-JAMES) IS BACK IN…

Star-crossed lovers? Now that Neal (Michael Raymond-James) is back in town, Emma will have to set her feelings about him aside for the sake of Henry. “She’s not in a mind space of, ‘Oh gosh, I wish that he was with me right now!’” Morrison says. “There’s too much for them to work out right now. He let her go to prison and let all these bad things happen to her, and he hasn’t been given an opportunity to explain that in a way that really makes that OK.” Had Neal gone to prison in her place, she would’ve waited for him and it would’ve messed up the curse, so “we’ll see if she has the forgiveness in her,” Morrison says of an upcoming episode that addresses his misdeeds.http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Spoilers-1062819.aspx

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Do we think the episode that addresses Nealfire’s misdeeds is 18 with Pinocchio?

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[MysteryKat25]

As much of a fan of CaptainSwan that I am…I think the wording on the star-crossed lovers is appropriate (though probably unintentionally so) given the Peter Pan theory. Gotta love those extra undercurrents nobody’s even looking for when they write this stuff! (And how easily common phrases are twisted when put into OUAT context!)

Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.

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