Spoilers for 2×22

[Slurpeez]

@Phee wrote:

@RumplesGirl wrote:

Hook saw young Bae for about 20 seconds in the bar. But that was when Bae was about 5 or 6. He doens’t know NEAL and we don’t know if he recognized 14 yr old Bae. Hook and Neal’s first interaction is something I’m looking forward to.

I’d find it hard to buy if Hook sees 14 year old Bae in NL and recognises him as the kid he saw years earlier for a few moments in a dimly lit pub. If Bae is going by his real name in NL, then of course Hook would instantly make the connection. But I doubt Bae was going by his real name in NL, so I think it took a while before Hook figured out who he was, but I do think the truth came out at some point. I have high expectations of the moment Hook first sees Neal. Hope it’s awesome.

Captain Hook eventually recognized 14-year-old Baelfire as the same young boy from the tavern in 2×4. Recall when Belle said Mr. Gold was looking for his son, and Hook rehtorically asked, “And what makes you think that boy wants to be found?” My own conclusion is that Hook knows Baelfire was on the run from his father, whom Hook knows is also Rumplestiltskin. Also, Captain Hook knew Milha had made the shawl for her son, which Hook then stole from Rumple. There’s no doubt Hook knew Baelfire’s true identity as the son of Milha, the woman he loved, and Rumple, his sworn enemy. Whether Hook would immediately recognize adult Baelfire (aka Neal Cassidy) is another question, but if he and Neal were to talk, Hook would make the connection. There are too many similarities.

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I agree with Phee. I think Bae was using a different name in NL but eventually Hook figured it out and that is what perhaps lead to their falling out. Maybe Hook wanted Bae to help him kill Rumple, like when he tried to free Belle in QoH if she would help him out. But Bae still loves his papa and always will. He’s a good soul who couldn’t do that to Rumple. So he left NL and came to our world in about 1991 at the age of 14. The question, if this is true, is how did he get here?

Despite the recent spoiler, I still think Baelfire could be Peter Pan, which would make it easy for him to fly to our world. Even if Baelfire isn’t Peter, he at least had Peter’s help and a bit of pixie dust to fly to Earth, perhaps because he had tired of being a teenager and wanted to grow up. On the subject of Bae’s connection with Captain Hook, I think it is a love-hate relationship. As Milha’s son, Bae is Hook’s last remaining connection to Milha and so he’d want to protect him. On the other hand, he is Rumple’s weakness and so if Bae refused to help Hook in taking down Rumplestiltskin, then it’s possible Bae fled to our world to escape Hook’s plans of revenge.

[RumplesGirl]

Despite the recent spoiler, I still think Baelfire could be Peter Pan, which would make it easy for him to fly to our world. Even if Baelfire isn’t Peter, he at least had Peter’s help and a bit of pixie dust to fly to Earth, perhaps because he had tired of being a teenager and wanted to grow up. On the subject of Bae’s connection with Captain Hook, I think it is a love-hate relationship. As Milha’s son, Bae is Hook’s last remaining connection to Milha and so he’d want to protect him. On the other hand, he is Rumple’s weakness and so if Bae refused to help Hook in taking down Rumplestiltskin, then it’s possible Bae fled to our world to escape Hook’s plans of revenge.

Wow. I completely forgot about pixie dust. I’m over here trying to figure out if magic beans could be in NL.
And I agree with your assessment of the Hook/Nealfire dynamic. The way Hook spoke about the Lost Boys, he’s obviously fond of them and I can see him trying to take care of Bae and the others. But, he is a pirate and he does do villainous things, so I can also see him trying to use Bae against Rumple, like he was willing to do with Belle. But did he not know that Bae (whatever name he was going by be it Peter or something else) was Rumple’s son for a long time? Bae was in NL for at least 250 yrs before he left. Did it really take Hook that long to piece it together? Or did they always know who the other one was and then something else happened to drive them apart? Bae knew that his mother had run off with a pirate and he was under the assumption that she was dead, but did Hook tell him what really happened? Neal hasn’t brought it up with Rumple thus far. And what was Bae doing before he met Hook? We know there is a small gap of time in between Bae going to NL and Hook returning there after Milah died.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[PanTheMan]

In the episode Dreamy (season 1), did the BlueFairy tell Nova that they used the fairy dust to travel between the worlds?

I think that episode touched on a lot of rules about fairy dust and traveling between worlds. It leads me to believe that the fairies have their own way of traveling between the worlds.

Since Peter Pan is (in some mythology) part Fairy, this would explain how he is able to travel between worlds without magic beans or magic spinning hats or trippy mirrors.

[RumplesGirl]

This is the opening conversation of Dreamy between Nova and Blue.

Blue Fairy: Easy!

Nova: Sorry.

Blue Fairy: Careful. Careful. Fairy dust is the most precious substance in all the land. Its magic is what powers the world. This is the year’s supply – we must be cautious.

Nova: I know.

I don’t think they ever talk about fairy dust being used to travel between worlds. I have no doubt that it CAN do that, but thus far it has not been established. I also have no doubt that fairies themselves can travel between worlds but again, it hasn’t been shown or discussed. I really want to see Blue travel between worlds. I had theorized that Blue was responsible for getting Bae out of NL and into our world but Neal came to our world in 1991, a few years after the curse hit.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[Slurpeez]

@RumplesGirl wrote:

I don’t think they ever talk about fairy dust being used to travel between worlds. I have no doubt that it CAN do that, but thus far it has not been established. I also have no doubt that fairies themselves can travel between worlds but again, it hasn’t been shown or discussed.

I agree that nothing has been offically confirmed in the Onceiverse that fairy dust allows people to travel between worlds, but we do know from Peter Pan mythology that it’s pixie dust that allowed him to fly. Ergo, I think it’ll be established soon that the fairies are able to travel between worlds. Also, the reason Rumplestiltskin couldn’t use the said fairy dust to travel between worlds is because Rumple said fairy dust doesn’t mix well with what he is (i.e. the Dark One).

I really want to see Blue travel between worlds. I had theorized that Blue was responsible for getting Bae out of NL and into our world but Neal came to our world in 1991, a few years after the curse hit.

Yes, I’d like to see another mash-up in which the Blue Fairy is Tinker Bell herself, or she at least is a friend of Tinker Bell. I still think back to the time in “The Return” in which the BF gave the magic bean to Baelfire, and she had this secretly gleeful look in her eye. I think that was a very indicative expression that Keegan Conner Tracey put in there as a hint about the BF’s intentions.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

Yes, I’d like to see another mash-up in which the Blue Fairy is Tinker Bell herself, or she at least is a friend of Tinker Bell. I still think back to the time in “The Return” in which the BF gave the magic bean to Baelfire, and she had this secretly gleeful look in her eye. I think that was a very indicative expression that Keegan Conner Tracey put in there as a hint about the BF’s intentions.

I’l never stop believing that Sneaky Fairy is Sneaky. If the two new girl that were just cast are Wendy and Ariel, then that still leaves a Tinkerbell open. Blue is the most likely candidate IMO. I think her story is much bigger than what we’ve seen so far.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[yinloveyang]

http://vancityfilming.com/once-upon-a-time-major-cast-filming-on-the-dock/

Surprise, surprise. Possible spoilers of course!!! Vancity filming have been waiting for a very long time.

[Slurpeez]

@yinloveyang wrote:

http://vancityfilming.com/once-upon-a-time-major-cast-filming-on-the-dock/

Surprise, surprise. Possible spoilers of course!!! Vancity filming have been waiting for a very long time.

Wow! 😮 Looks like a potential confrontation between the Charmings/Regina and Rumbelle. Perhaps they’re frantic about Henry’s kidnapping.

"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy

[RumplesGirl]

About time!!! Geez.

Ok, I spy: Regina, Emma, Charming, Snow, Rumple, and Belle. The only one missing is Hook but I’m assuming he’s already on the ship.

I’m not sure I read “confrontation” between the parties. I think these are the final moments before they get on the Jolly Roger and set off for NL.

"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"

[HappyEndings]

Thanks for sharing the photos!!!! 😀

It looks like Gold gets Belle huh?

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