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December 17, 2013 at 8:29 pm #231891[adrotate group="5"]December 17, 2013 at 8:40 pm #231895
Jenna_B
ParticipantCan I just do a brief exercise with all of you over the age if 17? Think about the guy (or girl) you were dating when you were 17? What were your hopes and dreams with said boyfriend or girlfriend then? How old are you now? Do you still have the same hopes and dreams with that boyfriend or girlfriend that you did then? If not, why? If so, why? If you are no longer dating the person you were dating when you were 17, and are now either dating or married to someone else, do you feel you made a mistake and should have tried to maintain or revive a relationship with the person you dated when you were 17? I will start this off. I was convinced I was going to marry the guy I was dating when I was 17. I was so stupid I actually followed him to college. This ended up being a good decision but the school ended up being PERFECT for me, and as a bonus I met my lifelong best friend!! On the other hand I broke up with my boyfriend a few months into freshman year when I developed a big time crush on a guy in my dorm who was a biology major in most of my classes. My ex transferred to a different college after our sophomore year. I found out after college that he had a one night stand with some random girl a few years later and got her pregnant. I am 41 now. I am so completely different than I was when I was 17 that I can hardly recognize myself!!! Doing things I never thought I would want to do, living someplace I never thought I would live, I’m still me but a much different version of myself! Married to an awesome hubby! It’s our anniversary today! Can’t imagine being married to anyone else. This is what my life was supposed to be and I am happy I am living it! Can’t imagine for one second thinking that my life “should have been” something else. I’ll go one step further. I am divorced. This is my second marriage. My hubby has raised my 12 year old cause his dad doesn’t care about him at all. My first husband decided he didn’t want the responsibility of being a dad after my son was born. There isn’t a day I regret divorcing my first husband. Not even because a “family” is supposed to be together. And if I was single and my ex came back today saying he wanted another chance and someone told me I should give him one because we are a family – I would show them BOTH the door.
Sometime around 17 or 18 I decided that I didn’t want to wake up when I’m 40 and suddenly ask myself “what if?” So I spent my 20s living almost ridiculously recklessly. I loved, I made good decisions, bad decisions, STUPID decisions…I spent 4 years in an extremely complicated relationship that absolutely tore me apart. And now I’m 34, married with a son, and my life is completely boring. And I love it! My husband is completely different than any of the other guys I dated and I can honestly say I have no regrets! but if you had told me at 17 my life would be a typically normal, boring life I would’ve thought you were insane! Thank god your 1st love isn’t always your only love!
Can I just say that since Sunday’s episode – in addition to swooning like a child – I’ve noticed a lot more of each ‘ship taking time to see the others’ points of view? And I love it! I think A&E did a really nice job getting people to think outside their ‘shipper box’. Of course, I say this with only this forum’s threads as examples – tumblr is just WAY to scary for me so I just wait until you all post their good stuff! I like this forum because I think we’re all a lot more moderate and understanding than other sites and forums anyway, but I’m really loving how much people are really coming together. Am I still just riding high because of all of the epi’s amazing feels? MAYBE!
December 17, 2013 at 8:59 pm #231899obisgirl
ParticipantThank god your 1st love isn’t always your only love!
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OUAT has shown it is possible to find love again. Look, we found out very early this season that Regina’s True Love is still out there.
Can I just say that since Sunday’s episode – in addition to swooning like a child – I’ve noticed a lot more of each ‘ship taking time to see the others’ points of view? And I love it! I think A&E did a really nice job getting people to think outside their ‘shipper box’. I like this forum because I think we’re all a lot more moderate and understanding than other sites and forums anyway, but I’m really loving how much people are really coming together. Am I still just riding high because of all of the epi’s amazing feels? MAYBE!
I’m glad. I have tumblr and I read comments all the time about negative reaction from the other side. It can get exhausting. I understand. Thank goodness for tumblr savior and blacklisting stuff. It keeps me sane on a daily basis.
But generally, on the forum here, we tend to be civil to each other. We still have disagreements and such but it rarely goes to the ugly place.
December 17, 2013 at 9:33 pm #231918killianhookfan
ParticipantI read Tumblr but that’s all I because I have yet to figure out how to use the the silly thing. I have an account (I think) floating around somewhere out there. Luckily the only things I really read on tumblr are the links from this forum so I haven’t come across any of the truly horrible stuff I have heard about, which is probably a good thing because it would get me all worked up.
I do think everyone here is pretty nice and I try to be respectful as well. Sometimes I honestly question if everyone is watching the same show (ex. Emma was more emotional about saying goodbye to Archie than she was about saying goodbye to Hook. Okay, come on now . . . even my husband laughed out loud at that one). But this is a really fun place. In general I think everyone is still pretty emotional from the midseason finale regardless of which ship you sail.
December 17, 2013 at 10:28 pm #231934obisgirl
ParticipantThat’s another thing. Emma doesn’t show her emotions very often. Remember, she has those walls? So when she does have a very emotional scene on the show, it tends to be a big deal.
Last season in Lady of the Lake, the scene in the nursery between her and Snow, where she realized that her parents do love her…honestly? that was the first time I cried watching this show.
When she cried twice over Neal this season, both times, it wasn’t ‘OMG, I can’t live without him.’ Instead, it was her realizing how clinging to that love has held her back and that’s not something she wants anymore. That’s why it bothers me when I see stuff like, ‘she’s running away from her feelings.’ Because she’s already faced her feelings for Neal. Twice.
And Adam and Eddie have said about Neverland, it’s a place because you have no future, you face your past. That’s exactly what happened to Emma. She faced her past (Neal) and wants to move on from him and face her future (Killian).
December 18, 2013 at 12:30 am #231957surayya
ParticipantAnyone else want to see Hook kick a little butt? Now I get that they wanted the confrontation between him and Think to go a certain way to bring up the whole risking of his life for love and revenge… but it just reminded me again our our man Hook seems to come out on the losing end a lot. I mean a fairy got the jump on him? He is 300 year old military trained pirate… don’t tell me he doesn’t have skills or common sense as he is trekking through dangerous territory and Smee is unconscious all of a sudden. i get he was a villain in the past and they have to lose but as a ‘hero’ now I would like to see him win a few… would be great if they show some of the treacherous quest he had to survive to reach Emma. lol… yes I do read too many romance novels.
You bring up a good point here, because from what we’ve actually seen so far, “Hook” hasnt really been a true villain- sure he’s done some villainous things sure, but honestly, all of the characters have- hero or villain.
It’s more like he’s been an anti hero from the start- He only became a Pirate, because his king was corrupt, which lead to his brothers death (So far we dont know if the only one they stole from etc was the corrupt king or not). Milah only ended up on his ship because she begged him to take her with him. Killian only sought vengeance, because Rumple murdered Milah, for loving him over Rumple, who also hated himself for letting Bae go. Killian thought about killing Belle, as she was protecting Milah’s murder & refusing to allow him to get his vengeance/justice for Milah’s murder. Killian only worked with Cora to get his vengeance/justice for his murdered love. Killian locked Emma & Co. in the jail cell, because Emma betrayed him, abandoning him a top a beanstalk, effectively protecting Milah’s murderer & preventing him for gaining his vengeance/justice for her murder. He shot Belle in the shoulder, to wound Rumple’s heart (thats the one truly villainous act he’s carried out so far IMO- wounding another to get at someone else), He worked with Regina, Cora & GOAT, because they would allow him to get his vengeance/justice for Milah’s murder. He stabbed Rumple/ Milah’s murderer, thinking it would give him his vengeance/justice. He stole the bean to protect himself, over risking his life for a bunch of people who either hated him or knocked him out & tied him up- but he came back because he realized he loved Bae & Emma. He had ‘hero’ or ‘good’ moments in between these ‘bad’ moments as well. But since S2, he’s done nothing but prove he is a ‘good man’.
So I wonder if his Hook persona was over developed as away to spread fear etc (like the Dread Pirate Robinson was). Or if we have yet to see him do really villainous stuff (aside from being very selfish)….. it couldnt have been that long after his brother died that he meet Milah & it was about 9-10yrs after that, that Rumple murdered her, so he couldnt have been an actual pirate for much longer than 15max (I’m not counting his time in NL in that, because only the lost boys & Pan were there) & I doubt he’d have come out of NL any earlier than 2 maybe 3yrs before the curse which would make him approx (33yrs- if we assume he is supposed to be approx 18yrs when he looses his brother).
December 18, 2013 at 1:03 am #231960MysteryKat25
ParticipantJust want to let you guys know that even though I haven’t been posting as much I’m still keeping up with the thread and loving the enthusiasm!
Some of these gifsets are just killing me and I’m doing tons of little metas on tumblr. I’m mostly hanging there right now. I just don’t want to see anything negative or mean or depressing. I want to think happy thoughts and analyze and have fun with it! I tend to do a bunch of metas and graphics reblogs. Sorry I’ve been horrible at dragging the various things over here but I know at least a few of you I see on there as well!
As depressing and devastating as 3×11 was (and how painful it’s gonna make re-watching the pilot!), I came out of it with a LOT of hope for basically everything I love about the show (which is…basically the show). The hiatus is gonna be painful but come March we should have a lot more Pilot callbacks too with Hook trying to get Emma to come with him to help save everyone! S1 Henry feels! (and parallels, there should be lots and lots of parallels!)
The Princess Bride moments and Star Wars moments just…*faints & adds parallel moves to hiatus watch list*
I know I saw the Princess Bride gifset over here for sure and the shots are almost identical (minus the hand messing with the hair over her ear but Killian doesn’t have that hand! *sniff*).
The Han/Leia stuff I blogged about but in short: “I know” became “Good” and *tries True Love’s Kiss” became “Someone who loves you.” Perfection. Han even asks “Who are you?” as he’s struggling to figure out who it is because he can’t see and she has the mask on so her voice is weird but he asks and then gets that answer. Emma asks and eventually, we get to the attempt at TLK which shows he loves her because he believes in it and it only failed because she doesn’t have her memories (poor thing probably doesn’t know that but he won’t give up hoping / trying to win her over and get her memories back. I have faith!)
I’m still hunting for the gif I saw (I reallllly need to start just saving & organizing things) of the kiss because she totally leans into it and closes her eyes like it’s the most natural thing in the world (and it will be). There’s one gif that stops before she opens her eyes and literally if you stop it there it looks like she is more than ok with kissing him and has done it a million times. As much as I would have loved for it to not change directions and instead have worked and turned into an epic kiss, I’ll take the Snowing parallel any day!
She also LICKS HER LIPS and is visibly affected by the kiss and then shrugs it off. Oh and uh, the look of shock where her mouth drops open when she opens the door? Kills me every time. She’s searching his face so hard to recognize him. *sniff*
So many other things I’m sure I’m forgetting right now, I feel like I’ve been meta’ing/reblogging almost non-stop since it aired, but there’s just so much wonderful stuff to notice! Haven’t dared rewatch the pilot yet, it took so much out of me to rewatch Going Home but looking forward to analyzing it alongside 3×11 and then 3×12. Is it March 9th yet? *taps foot impatiently*
Glad to see so many new faces hanging out in the CS thread! I’m sure many lurk too *waves* – so happy to see this beautiful ship growing. 🙂
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
December 18, 2013 at 1:57 am #231964MysteryKat25
ParticipantINCREDIBLE VIDEO
A few seconds in….is that?….in that episode?….I think it’s…*faints* it’s the tongue thing!
THIS IS NOT A DRILL. She does the tongue thing before turning to face Hook to go climb the beanstalk. It’s in Tallahassee! (I posted this on tumblr just now as well but HAD to share this! Incredible video & new meaning to their journey in that episode!) This is why I love rewatching everything once we have a new chunk of information aka new season or in this case mini-season. I haven’t even started a rewatch yet but that video was incredible and then it hit me with the parallel to the end of 3×11. *falls over*
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
December 18, 2013 at 2:31 am #231966emmajones
ParticipantINCREDIBLE VIDEO A few seconds in….is that?….in that episode?….I think it’s…*faints* it’s the tongue thing! THIS IS NOT A DRILL. She does the tongue thing before turning to face Hook to go climb the beanstalk. It’s in Tallahassee! (I posted this on tumblr just now as well but HAD to share this! Incredible video & new meaning to their journey in that episode!) This is why I love rewatching everything once we have a new chunk of information aka new season or in this case mini-season. I haven’t even started a rewatch yet but that video was incredible and then it hit me with the parallel to the end of 3×11. *falls over*
I CRIED T____T I love their love soo much T___T
December 18, 2013 at 2:43 am #231967moraha
Participantsurayya, that is an awesome find with the chain in her room!!! It is there ON PURPOSE!! Emma picked it out maybe subconcsiously cause she liked it. Who decorates their apartement with an ancient chain like that?! That is another little detail pointing toward Captain Swan. I LOVE IT!!! 🙂
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