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April 14, 2012 at 5:47 pm #134210dorothyParticipant
Am I the only who’s worried about what would happen if more people besides Jefferson were to start remembering who they were? I mean besides the awesome notion of making Emma believe in the curse and giving her more allies, wouldn’t there also be some disastrous consequences as well? People would start remembering their old grudges, and fights could start breaking out.
Like say Moe French remembering that he has a daughter named Belle. Last time he checked, Rumple/Gold took her as payment for protecting his town. He could easily form a mob with other people from his town and march to Rumple/Gold’s house to try to reclaim his daughter. It would be an echo of the Disney version of Beauty and The Beast, with Moe leading the mob shouting “Kill the Beast!”
How many other people out there besides Red and Granny know that they’re werewolves? How do you think would other people react if they were to remember this?
If the Fairies where to suddenly remember who they were, and assuming the animosity Rumple/Gold feels towards them is mutual, what’s to stop them from going against him? He was after all their nasty landlord for 28 years.
As much as I love the idea of people torching Regina’s house, anything done against Regina could easily affect Henry. He is her adopted son, and still lives with her. If someone were to do something to her while she was sitting comfortably at home with her son and unaware, Henry could get hurt too just from being with close proximity.
I don’t mean to be a kill-joy, but I’m just saying this could get ugly. 😯
[adrotate group="5"]April 14, 2012 at 5:53 pm #142211an empty heartParticipantI completely agree. I’ve been wondering about this too. This is the curse to end all curses. And if that’s the case, then maybe it’s not meant to be broken. I mean, yes, there is a way for it to be broken, but it would probably cost everyone involved very dearly. Trememdous sacrifice and effort was made when the curse was first enacted. All of fairytale land seemed to be destroyed. So, if enacting the curse caused that much damage, imagine what kind of damage we’ll see once it’s broken. 😯
April 14, 2012 at 6:29 pm #142218killianhookfanParticipantThis is one of the reasons I think that Rumple/Gold’s plan is do away with all magic completely, the whole “all magic comes with a price” idea. There is really no easy way to deal with any of this in SB without doing away with magic. It’s one thing to remember who you are and what happened to you if you have the ability to use magic but entirely another if you remember and don’t have magic – then it’s really just . . . life.
It could actually be really interesting to see how the characters would handle themselves without magic. They would have all the same grudges and alliances but they would have to find new ways to deal with everything – it would be kind of like a soap opera on steroids.
April 14, 2012 at 6:49 pm #142222an empty heartParticipantI like the theory of Mr. Gold wanting to rid the world of magic. It would make sense. The Dark Curse practically reversed all of the enchantments and cursed creatures of Fairytale land. Everyone who was a supernatural creature or animal in Fairytaleland returned to their human form once the curse took effect.
April 14, 2012 at 7:08 pm #142225the wizParticipantMr. Gold has every reason to eliminate dark magic since he/Rumple is constantly paying the price for using it, just like that Dark One predecessor. Dark magic leads to unhappy endings. But the restoration of happy endings leaves room for lots of light magic to support everyone’s dreams coming true.
When Sheriff Graham started remembering after kissing Emma, he began wandering desperately in the woods. When David started remembering after a hypno-regression session with Archie, he panicked. When Jefferson connected the dots, he held hostages at gunpoint. All this supports what Dorothy said:
I don’t mean to be a kill-joy, but I’m just saying this could get ugly.
On the other hand, both Henry and August appear to have total recall of FTL and individuals’ pre-curse abilities, relationships and happy endings. Neither is going crazy in SB. Their knowledge appears to be a comfort to them. So I’m hopeful that they will discover ways to serve as catalysts for the curse to self-destruct and for the evil characters to become their own worst enemies.
April 14, 2012 at 7:21 pm #142227dorothyParticipantI honestly don’t think the theory of Rumple/Gold wanting to get rid of magic really makes any sense. Magic was that guy’s trade, it gave him power. Why would he want to get rid of it? The reason why some people became human was because they came to our world, where fairytale creatures don’t exist.
@ the wiz It’s those kinds of reactions that I’m worried about. Having weird visions and realizing that you’re a fairytale character can be a lot to swallow.
April 14, 2012 at 9:20 pm #142245surayyaParticipantIm hoping it kind of takes the opposite of enacting the curse to break the curse- major dark deeds were required to enact it, so it would make sense that major good deeds would be required to break it- sort of opposites canceling each other out or creating balance.
Rumps never said the curse to eliminate all curses, he said to end all curses- to me he wants out of his curse & this is the only way he can currently end it (he feels hes a monster & so can never be loved nor does he want to die which are his 2 options to date). Remember in FTL he has mega loads of spun gold & wealth- if he’s no longer the dark one he IS still a rich one with a castle & everything. If by breaking the curse all of the once cursed FTL folk are also free of their curses, then Red would no longer be a wolf either- it’d sorta be like a soft reset for FTL. This also leaves room for new villains, with new agendas to come forward & create new havoc lol 🙂April 15, 2012 at 12:54 am #142294obisgirlParticipantI just hope Regina doesn’t have everyone’s heart stored up somewhere. I hate to see her crush everyone’s heart like poor Graham’s. 🙁
April 15, 2012 at 1:21 am #142299killianhookfanParticipantIf everyone suddenly remembers at one time I don’t think it will be a big deal – it will be kind of like FTL has just moved to a new location. But the interesting thing will be if people start to remember one by one – that could have some interesting consequences . . . kind of like how Gold beat Moe French with a cane. Moe has no idea what Gold is talking about or why he is getting beat with a cane – it would have been a very different scenario if he had remembered that he had a daughter (assuming of course that someone let him know that he supposedly locked her in a tower and torchered her) that had chosen to live with Rumple.
You bring up a good point about Henry. Where does he fit into all of this once everyone remembers? I will be interested to see how they handle that situation. As a stepmom I have issues with how Disney always makes us out to be evil and hate our stepkids. But this whole adoptive mother as evil and birth mother as savior is a bit much for me. Once everyone remembers are they suddenly going to have Henry be “rescued” from his evil adoptive mother – the woman who has raised him from infancy, and then given lovingly back to his biological mother – the woman who gave birth to him in a prison, gave him up for adoption, and then impulsively decided to stay in his town after he tracked her down on the internet??? That’s kind of weird to me. Regina is Henry’s mother and that won’t change even if everyone remembers who they are.
April 15, 2012 at 1:47 am #142307weedithParticipantI agree that everybody remembering at once would be less problematic than people here and there remembering and being looked at as crazy by those who don’t remember. Graham’s memories came back in bits and pieces and it made him think he himself was going crazy. (Think about it —- what if you suddenly started having memories that didn’t fit into the life you think you have —- especially if they are of a world that seems like total fantasy in our modern world.)
It will be interesting to see how relationships might change in light of Storybrooke events. Seriously, I don’t see how Snow can forgive Charming for losing faith in her and believing she would kill Kathryn. And of course I am very interested to see how the Regina/Henry/Emma triangle gets resolved.
@the wiz wrote:
On the other hand, both Henry and August appear to have total recall of FTL and individuals’ pre-curse abilities, relationships and happy endings. Neither is going crazy in SB. Their knowledge appears to be a comfort to them.
I’m not sure these are really good predictors of how the other FTL characters may respond. Henry did not have an existence in FTL so he can’t really be said to have “recall.” Unless you think SB Henry is actually Henry, Regina’s father reincarnated. Apart from the weird “I’m my own grandpa” aspect, that could have some interesting ramifications. Could it be Henry, the father trying in a weird way to save his daughter? He did seem to love her right to the end, even when he knew she was considering killing him. Or is Henry, the father seeking revenge on his daughter for murdering him? Since Henry’s heart was used to enact the curse, maybe his essence somehow made it through to the new world.
As far as August — I think it is still too early to tell what he actually knows about FTL. He has certainly made many pointed comments but we still don’t know if he existed in FTL, and if he did, how he came through to the real world outside of Storybrooke. So many questions!!!
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