December 6, 2015 at 11:14 pm #313718WickedRegalParticipant
I also dont understand the mechanics of how it even happened. Was the answer literally just squid ink?
I honestly don’t know. I mean I have zero idea because I was too busy screaming.
Another question…if she’s no longer the Dark One…how in the world did Emma hear the dagger calling to her?[adrotate group="5"]
"If you go as far as you can see...you will then see enough to go even further." - Finn BalorDecember 6, 2015 at 11:39 pm #313738CorbinParticipant
Do you want to know the worst part about all of this? It’s that:
1. Rumple now has a clean heart, so he can go about doing bad things for at least 200 years until it darkens up again.
2. This is the opposite of 3A. Rumple was so accepting of being the Dark One, using it as a means to an end to find Henry. Then, realizing that he has to save everyone, he chose the heroic way out and killed his father to save his family. Now, having had the heroic way out by getting Belle out of town and giving “Excalibur” to Emma and Regina, he decided to undo that by, again, giving into the Darkness.
This was sloppy, idiotic storytelling that, as much as it caught me off guard, it had me screaming (and laughing) in anger. I mean, I wanted Rumple to be the Dark One again, but not willingly. If we had seen him be forced upon that darkness again and, as had been foreshadowed with Emma and Merlin, use it for good, I could’ve dealt with that. But not this. Not this mockery of a fairy tale.
Since we’re (literally) going to Hell, let Hades help us all.
Keeper of Thor’s Hammer, Will Scarlet’s Genie Bottle, Emma’s Gun, Emma and Henry’s Moment at the Castle, Cora, and the infamous Family Tree!December 7, 2015 at 12:31 am #313756KebParticipant
I just. Still. Whiplash.
I feel, honestly, betrayed by this choice. It negates Hook’s sacrifice completely (not that, say, any sacrifice of Rumple’s has ever been negated…) and it doesn’t make sense AND there was zero foreshadowing so it really did come out of nowhere AND he lied to Belle AND left her behind AGAIN.
And yet part of me wanted to see Rumple actually WORK to escape the DO curse and addiction to magic, and I felt robbed of that journey when the Apprentice pulled the darkness out of his heart. There was no character development in THAT decision…but there wasn’t any in getting DO Rumple back, either. It was just…okay, reset but with Hook taking the place of Henry, let’s go to <del datetime=”2015-12-07T05:26:26+00:00″>Neverland</del> the Underworld…without Belle because she is not worth building as a character in her own right, she’s just there to be the reward when Rumple does Good. Until she finds out he didn’t really. Because that would be sending the wrong message…*channels Regina from Skin Deep…when characters actually mattered more than surprise twists and the plot made a little more sense*
Keeper of Belle's Gold magic, sand dollar, cloaks, purple FTL outfit, spell scroll, library key, copy of Romeo and Juliet, and cry-muffling pillow, Rumple's doll, overcoat, and strength, and The Timeline. My spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6r8CySCCWd9R0RUNm4xR3RhMEU/view?usp=sharingDecember 7, 2015 at 3:41 am #313788GaultheriaParticipant
Another thing that hurts about Rumple becoming the Dark One again is that he chose to do so as a mere mortal man. This wasn’t Rumple with the darkness inside him manipulating him. He 100% willingly chose to go that route all on his own.
I think it makes sense for Rumpel’s character. With his leg magically healed by Hook, Rumpel had a reminder of just how good it feels to be able to wave problems away. As a former user, Rumpel was doing okay in recovery until Hook spiked his punch.
Also, the thing about Rumpel’s fear reminded me of Timothy Zahn’s novel Angelmass. One of its plot points involves people wearing medallions that make them peaceful by taking away their fear; for the most part, their disputes don’t turn into preemptive strikes or massive retaliation, and so people are more willing to work toward constructive solutions. But for some people, it was fear of being caught and punished that had been keeping their criminal ambitions in check; the medallions have the opposite effect on this group than on the majority of the population.
Gaultheria's fanvids: http://youtube.com/sagethrasherDecember 7, 2015 at 6:29 am #313791FelieParticipant
The combined power of all the Dark Ones? So… is he the new (old-new) villain now? Or are we getting Hades?
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"there’s lesbians in it"December 7, 2015 at 7:37 am #313795Sci-Fi GirlParticipant
^ *shrug* Both?
All they do these days is muddled. Like, was this arc about evil Arthur, or Dark Hook? It was sort of both, but really they just changed gears in the middle and abandoned their own storyline! >_<
Keeper of Anna’s Awkward Babbling and Kristoff’s Fur-trimmed Tunic!December 7, 2015 at 8:54 am #313804RumplesGirlKeymaster
Like, was this arc about evil Arthur, or Dark Hook? It was sort of both, but really they just changed gears in the middle and abandoned their own storyline! >_<
Well it was *supposed* to be about Emma but that didn’t happen."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 7, 2015 at 11:07 am #313812OnyxParticipant
I haven’t read all the replies so someone probably already mentioned this, but making Rumple the DO again, just proves once more, they have no freaking idea what to do with Bobby’s character. On top of that, season 5A was the equivalent of walking around in a circle. We are right back where we started, without anything developing in any of the characters along the way.
Co-Mayor of Sad Town | Twin of Co-Mayor of Sad TownDecember 7, 2015 at 11:12 am #313813RumplesGirlKeymaster
I haven’t read all the replies so someone probably already mentioned this, but making Rumple the DO again, just proves once more, they have no freaking idea what to do with Bobby’s character.
It’s either one of two things. Either 1) they have no idea how to write Redeemed Rumple (or at least, Rumple trying to redeem himself). Like the concept literally baffles these professional writers. OR 2) They do know how to write a Redeemed Rumple but are choosing not to because they constantly need a contrast in good vs bad with their other former villains (mostly Hook, but also Regina). In order to prove that the other former villains are no longer villains, they refuse to put Rumple down the no-longer-a-villain path because it then they’ve lost their contrast.
I’m not sure which option is worse."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 7, 2015 at 2:33 pm #313820CorbinParticipant
My guess? It’s to keep Bobby around. He’s said how much he prefers playing a more sinister version of Rumple, and it’s been obvious how much his Gold performance has declined since Neal’s death UNTIL they gave him the “total villain” character he has now. Now, if we were following a logical plot, should Rumple have ended up this way (especially after Going Home, an episode that has had every single story beat in it reversed)? No. But, based off Bobby’s comments and seeing his progression after 3B, I can say it’s a definite possibility.
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