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December 15, 2013 at 10:35 pm #230945storytellerParticipant
Based on this albeit confusing mid-season finale we are left with a ton of questions that will be plaguing us for the next couple of months. But based on what we know so far from the promos for 3×12 we can safely say that the Wicked Witch of the West has something terrible in store for the recent returnees to the EF.
What we know
1) The former inhabitants of the Enchanted Forest (i.e. David, Snow, Regina, Neal, etc) return to the Post-Curse Enchanted Forest.
2) A year’s worth of adventure will take place for them while Emma and Henry live an outwardly happy life in NYC .
3) The Wicked Witch of the West appears in the Enchanted Forest and is found in Regina’s old castle. Advertised as the new big bad with a significant arc and a vendetta against Regina.
4) A new curse brings the aforementioned characters back to the Land w/o Magic in a re-created Storybrooke.
5) Hook somehow makes his way to NYC in an effort to re-unite Emma and Henry with them all and face down the new threat presented by the Wicked Witch.
6) Emma as in Season 1 is skeptical and must overcome happy rather than unpleasant memories to come to her family’s aid.
7) The effects of returning to the Land w/o Magic remain unknown. A promo scene shows Belle sating: ” Do you know who cursed us?” implying that their memories are restored to them (if they were wiped to begin with) and those gathered apparently not knowing who cursed them.
Let the Speculation begin!
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December 15, 2013 at 10:37 pm #230946RumplesGirlKeymaster4) A new curse brings the aforementioned characters back to the Land w/o Magic in a re-created Storybrooke.
My theory is that this happens in 313 not 312, but yes it does happen.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 15, 2013 at 11:55 pm #231022Brent WolgamottParticipantFrom what I can gather (this is my first time posting, but I listen to the podcast all the time), it appears like we’ll be getting present day Our World, and also present day Storybrooke (you can see Dr. Whale with the old fashioned nurses, and also Robin Hood with Hook and Charming, and also Belle asks of Emma “do you know who cursed us? which she DEFINITELY did not do in any of the other two seasons) and also Present and Past EF/FLT.
It appears as though breaking the Dark Curse (which Regina did at the end)not only sends them back to EF with their memories intact, but also looking as they did in the pilot. They all look exactly like they did from the pilot, to David’s swashbuckling/sword fighting white shirt, to Regina’s red streak and black get-up to Grumpy’s hat he was wearing when he yelled “the curse…it’s HERE!!”.
The promo shows Regina in like 4 different outfits, 3 in the EF. Can someone tell me — the quick shot of Emma sitting in what looks to be Regina’s office, with Regina angrily throwing a bottle of something — what is that?? Is that old and I am forgetting? Or is that new? It looks as though there is a box of (a heart) sitting on the table….
December 16, 2013 at 2:53 pm #231363JabberwockyParticipantWill WW be in the new Storybrooke or operate it from the Enchanted Forest?
December 16, 2013 at 3:44 pm #231393TheWatcherParticipant3) The Wicked Witch of the West appears in the Enchanted Forest and is found in Regina’s old castle. Advertised as the new big bad with a significant arc and a vendetta against Regina.
I am betting that Regina is responsible for her green skin. In Oz the great and powerful, the witch is evil because she was given a green apple that made her heart wither away by her evil sister. Regina does have a thing for apples >> Also, in the Wicked novel, there is a recipe for some kind of poisoned apple in the witchs book of spells. Just throwing it out there *throws*
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I hope they are not sisters though, the Family tree is already so messed up.
December 16, 2013 at 5:31 pm #231438Crystal PrincessParticipantI’d prefer if she was born green tbh.
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December 16, 2013 at 6:14 pm #231457RumplesGirlKeymasterstoryteller wrote: 3) The Wicked Witch of the West appears in the Enchanted Forest and is found in Regina’s old castle. Advertised as the new big bad with a significant arc and a vendetta against Regina.
I am betting that Regina is responsible for her green skin. In Oz the great and powerful, the witch is evil because she was given a green apple that made her heart wither away by her evil sister. Regina does have a thing for apples >> Also, in the Wicked novel, there is a recipe for some kind of poisoned apple in the witchs book of spells. Just throwing it out there *throws*
I like it a lot!
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"December 17, 2013 at 3:35 pm #231779lisasParticipantOkay I’m going to lay my theory out here
I came up with this theory that the Wicked Witch needs Emma & Henry to lock the curse in somehow. She either threatens Neal, Snow & Charming or She threatens Emma & Henry either way Hook is sent back to retrieve Emma & Henry and restore their memories. I think the potion is either BF’s memory potion or one the WWW has made using the blood from Snow,Emma and Neal because they are connected to them by blood their family. I suspect once that happens Emma & Henry are brought to EF Or SB after their drinking that potion and their memories are restored they will be like everyone else in SB Cursed but it will take Emma & Henry & Neal to break the curse. I think Emma will find the scroll that she thought Regina destroyed.
I don’t think Emma & Henry can escape the effects of having to go back to the Enchanted Forest with everyone else once this curse is broken.
I suspect that the majority will take place in the EF and that WWW is running things from there
I really think that Hook will bring & Emma & Henry Back to the EF first before SB
December 17, 2013 at 3:41 pm #231782RumplesGirlKeymasterI think the potion is either BF’s memory potion or one the WWW has made using the blood
That’s interesting cause in the 312 promo you do see her putting blood into some sort of vial.
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