February 28, 2012 at 10:52 am #137819
Got a close-up from the thing under the tree!
I have to say, like NONNIE said, it kind of looks like a bee hive … Anyway, whatever it is, it’s on a table …February 28, 2012 at 3:14 pm #137829
The name of the lake is Lake Gnostos with a “g” from the Greek meaning “knowledge,” which makes sense, given that what was once lost is returned. This could mean that the lake returns knowledge to those who drink from it. My theory is that this water will play a role for SB characters remembering FTL.
Also found in my digging around that Nostos (in OUAT ep13 the siren was in Lake Nostos) is a Greek word meaning “homecoming” and is a theme used in Homer’s Odyssey, so I feel sure this perhaps goes with the something lost being found idea (a homecoming of sorts). A siren is also present in Homer’s Odyssey.
I don’t discredit that the word might be “nosotos,” but I have doubts, since after looking on other websites, the word in general use is “gnostos”.
Moreover, I think that Prince James (aka Prince Charming) will use the water from Lake Gnostos to restore Snow White’s memories of their love in FTL.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal CassidyFebruary 28, 2012 at 3:36 pm #137832SnickerdoodleParticipant
@slurpeez108 Okay. When I first saw it in a blog it was spelled with an N. But I like what you said too:)
@ mia Have to agree with the close up it looks like a beehive Somebody must be making apple blossom honey. 🙂February 28, 2012 at 3:45 pm #137833
I have to say, like NONNIE said, it kind of looks like a bee hive … Anyway, whatever it is, it’s on a table …
I agree that the yellow object beneath the apple tree resembles a bee hive. The significance could be connected the to the Grimms’ fairy-tale called The Queen Bee. The story’s synoposis from Wikipedia reads:
Two king’s sons went out to seek their fortune, but fell into disorderly ways. The youngest, Simpleton, went out to find them, but they mocked him. They traveled on, and Simpleton prevented his brothers from destroying an ant hill, killing some ducks, and suffocating a bee hive with smoke. Then they came to a castle with stone horses in the stable, and no sign of anyone. They hunted through the castle and found a room with a little gray man, who showed them to dinner. In the morning, he showed the oldest son a stone table, on which were written three tasks. Whoever performed them would free the castle.
The first was to collect the princess’s thousand pearls, scattered in the woods. Whoever tried and failed would be turned to stone. The older brothers tried and failed. For the youngest, however, the ants collected the pearls. The second was to fetch the key to the princess’s bedchamber from the lake, which the ducks did for him. The third was to pick out the youngest princess from the three sleeping princesses; they looked exactly alike, and the only difference was that the oldest had eaten a bit of sugar before they slept, the second a little syrup, and the youngest some honey. The queen bee picked out the youngest.
This woke the castle, and restored all those who had been turned to stone. The youngest son married the youngest princess, and his two brothers, the other princesses.
For the complete story, click here: (http://www.authorama.com/grimms-fairy-tales-38.html)
There is also Aesop’s Fable The Flies and the Honey Pot to consider:
A NUMBER of Flies were attracted to a jar of honey which had been overturned in a housekeeper’s room, and placing their feet in it, ate greedily. Their feet, however, became so smeared with the honey that they could not use their wings, nor release themselves, and were suffocated. Just as they were expiring, they exclaimed, “O foolish creatures that we are, for the sake of a little pleasure we have destroyed ourselves.” Pleasure bought with pains, hurts. http://www.fairytalescollection.com/Aesop_Fables/The_Flies_And_The_Honey_Pot.htm
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal CassidyFebruary 29, 2012 at 1:09 pm #137896
Here is another close-up of the tree and honey-comb structure.
February 29, 2012 at 2:55 pm #137905
OK that definitely looks like a bee hive. My first thought btw was Winnie the Pooh, but it’s a children’s book, not a fairy tale.The film is from Disney though. Just don’t see any reason for it to be in the town insignia.
Maybe because bees transport the apple tree’s pollen?
Read the other fairy tales slurpeez108, but can’t think of any connection. Maybe it is something else …February 29, 2012 at 6:48 pm #137931
After re-watching episode 2, it turns out the honeycomb under the apple tree on the town emblem may simply refer to the name of the apple tree. Regina says to Emma:
“Did you know that the honeycrisp tree is the most hearty and vigorous of all apple trees? It can survive temperatures as low as 40 below and keep growing. It can weather any storm. I have one that I’ve tended to since I was a little girl. And to this day, I’ve yet to taste anything more delicious than the fruit it offers.”
The type of apple tree is called honeycrisp, hence the honey on the emblem. I think that the apple tree is also a metaphor for Regina. When she is speaking about how the tree can weather any storm and freezing temperatures, she is referring to herself. The more I think about the connection between Regina and that apple tree, the more I think her last name, Mills is connected to the Greek word milo for “apple.” Here is a link for the honeycrisp apple: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HoneycrispFebruary 29, 2012 at 7:25 pm #137942
Of course, totally oversaw that! Good catch, Slurpeez.
You know, the name Mills could just easily refer to both the word milo AND the miller’s daughter from Rumpelstilzchen. Maybe we’ll find out in ep 19.March 1, 2012 at 2:14 am #137969obisgirlParticipant
We have not seen the stranger’s typewriter since he showed it off to Emma. Does the stranger still have it? Or was it simply a prop to throw off Emma to his true intentions/or purpose in Storybrooke?March 1, 2012 at 2:35 am #137972nonnieParticipant
HONEY BEES were important to the early settlers in the American Colonies and the symbol is scattered in various public buildings.
Various Bee Blocks are popular in Colonial textile and quilting motifs.
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