November 13, 2016 at 5:22 am #330212
Wow lookie what I found-
I have new appreciation for last week’s flashbacks. Now, I think I have a theory 😉 The Woodcutter is Charming’s father…. Dam dam dammm!!!
Read this fairytale “The Spirit in the glass bottle” –
Similarities between this tale and the episode are: The Woodcutter, had quarrels with his “son”. The axe that “the son holds” breaks. Someone/something is freed, which results in a magical exchange. The son needs money to help his parent, who is in financial trouble. The glass bottle holds some potentially menacing content.
My analysis of these similarities:
Obviously Charming’s father is going to be revealed as having been the Woodcutter in a later episode… which means… Charming killed his own father.. Dam dam daaaammmm!!! Hm I wonder how the Evil Queen knows this?
Snow was The Spirit Charming freed, which resulted in love not hate. The Sapling could have been used to capture another spirit- the Evil Queen.
The Sapling and the Spirit were both found underneath the earth by the roots (the Unconscious mind)
I think the sapling, or more accurately, True Love in itself, could also be interpreted as being The Spirit. It was set free the moment they touched and the exchange of the money happened. Here is a bit from a text from an article on Jung’s view on the Archetype- The Spirit:
Quote article“Spirit, like God, denotes an object of psychic experience which cannot be proved to exist in the external world and cannot be understood rationally. This is its meaning if we use the word “spirit” in its best sense.[“Spirit and Life,” CW 8, par. 626.]
The archetype of spirit in the shape of a man, hobgoblin, or animal always appears in a situation where insight, understanding, good advice, determination, planning, etc., are needed but cannot be mustered on one’s own resources. The archetype compensates this state of spiritual deficiency by contents designed to fill the gap.[“The Phenomenology of the Spirit in Fairytales,” CW 9i, par. 39”
Why I bring this up here, is just that I have a feeling this sapling of true love will come into play later, if it is indeed The Spirit- then it will be the sapling (or true love in another form) which is needed to defeat the Evil Queen and perhaps also to either defeat or somehow take care of this business with Rumple and Belles baby.
Also, I wonder if this spirit in the bottle business, will somehow tie into Aladdin’s story with the Genie in the bottle/lamp.
More interesting stuff: The spirit in the tale is identified as the greek God Mercury, who I found this on, from wiki –“Ovid wrote that Mercury carried Morpheus’s dreams from the valley of Somnus to the sleeping humans” Those who read spoilers will understand why this might be important.
Hm… hm… hm o-O .. the plot thickens.
‘Nother thing– To trap The Spirit in the tale the boy used his wits to fool The Spirit. In Once Regina used her memories, which she shares with EQ, to set a trap for EQ so that Zelena saw EQ and Rumple together. EQ has so far had the upper hand against the heroes, because she uses her memories to trap Regina, or to always be one step ahead of her (like we will see in this Sundays episode…allegedly 😉 ) EQ is currently using her memories to trap or play Charming (if my theory about the woodcutter is correct).
I think EQ can be played the same way, as demonstrated by Regina using the memory of her and Rumple against EQ…. This could be how they end up trapping EQ… Back to the Woodcutter tale- The Spirit was trapped because it was vain. It wanted the boy to know how powerful it was. Being vain was The Spirit’s weak spot…. Now we have to think what is EQ weak spot?? Might it be Henry??[adrotate group="5"]November 13, 2016 at 8:38 am #330216
Uh another thing too: In a different thread I said I hoped that the sleeping curse on the Charmings would be lifted by them sharing a true love’s kiss inside one of their shared dreams.
I think that in a future episode we will see this shared dream of the Charmings and it will be a dream of a memory from their past where Snow is too proud to be with Charming and where charming David shows his prejudice against princess Snow. This situation is something they both remember and both regret. When you are under this form of sleeping curse, you are in a place with “Dreams formed of your own regrets”.. Quote of The Evil Queen from season 1 episode 21 ‘An Apple red as Blood’
In this dream they will realise their own mistakes, forgive each other and kiss. That is what will break their sleeping curse.
Why do I think this?- Because the name of the town Longbourn is mentioned many times through last weeks episode “Heartless” Longbourn is the fictional town from the Jane Austen novel “Pride and Prejudice” in which the to main characters realise their love for each other as soon as they both overcome their feelings of respectively: Pride and Prejudice.November 13, 2016 at 2:37 pm #330219
Rumplesgirl are you here? Who changed my text to say- Dang! ??? When all I wrote was what was supposed to be a harmless menacing drum beat- (dam dam dammm)
Anyway I changed it back 😉 because menacing drum beats are allowed right?November 13, 2016 at 3:03 pm #330220ry4christParticipant
This is our third “Woodcutter” at this point. First was Hansel and Gretel’s father in 1×09, then Zelena’s father in 3×16, now this guy in 6×07.November 13, 2016 at 3:32 pm #330221RumplesGirlKeymaster
Rumplesgirl are you here? Who changed my text to say- Dang! ??? When all I wrote was what was supposed to be a harmless menacing drum beat- (dam dam dammm) Anyway I changed it back because menacing drum beats are allowed right?
My apologies. I assumed you were trying to get around the language filter by skipping a letter because that’s how it sounds when you say it out loud. So, yes, as keymaster, I changed it. I believe, now that you’ve explained, what you’re trying to communicate is the “dun dun duuuuuuuun” type of sound. It can stand, of course, since you’re not cursing."He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 13, 2016 at 4:02 pm #330222
Okay great! I learned something new, then I will write ‘dun’ everytime in the future 😉 Thanks.
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