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November 15, 2013 at 5:52 pm #224176MatthewPaulModerator
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Carlyle-Raymond-James-Daddy-Issues-1073495.aspx
If you thought Baelfire had daddy issues being the spawn of the Dark One, just wait until you get a look at Rumplestiltskin’s (Robert Carlyle) childhood during Sunday’s Once Upon a Time (8/7c, ABC.)
“Think Lovely Thoughts” will take viewers back to the fairy tale land that was, where a young Rumple (portrayed in flashbacks by Wyatt Oleff) has an even rockier relationship with his father Malcolm (Stephen Lord) than his present-day self has with Neal/Bae (Michael Raymond-James).
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“The relationship is not good,” Carlyle tells TVGuide.com. “The father only cares about himself, and he’s a selfish guy. Rumple’s father has the gift of the gab. He’s certainly a gregarious kind of guy; friends of everyone and probably no one. He’s a trickster. He’s a hopeless gambler. So he’s really not someone who is usually fitted for parenting.”
Unlike Rumple’s relationship with Neal, which was tenuous because of Rumple’s quest for power, Malcolm really doesn’t want to have anything to do with his son. “The boy’s a kind of tagalong,” Carlyle explains. “You find him hanging outside the bar waiting for his father to come out.”
But there are still a lot of parallels between the two relationships since the young Bae always hoped to have a closer relationship with his own father, who, despite being preoccupied with dark magic, did love Bae with all his heart. “That’s a moment we can kind of bond over,” Raymond-James says. “‘See, you know what it’s like to have a sh—y father then, too! And it’s hard and maybe I’ve been harder on you than I needed to.'”
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Even though Neal is still wary to about trusting that Rumple has Henry’s (Jared Gilmore) best interests at heart, the realization that Rumple went through a similar childhood may actually bring father and son closer. “Neal is somewhat of an internal optimist,” Raymond-James says. “He was willing to forgive his father before and the stakes have been raised now. Now he feels his son’s life is in danger as a direct result of his father and that’s hard to take. The audience realizes that Rumple’s intentions are pure, but Neal doesn’t. Neal is also somebody who’s looking for a second chance himself with Emma [Jennifer Morrison], the woman he loves, and he’s willing to give his father the 35th chance if conditions eventually work out.”
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[adrotate group="5"]November 15, 2013 at 5:56 pm #224179SlurpeezParticipantBut there are still a lot of parallels between the two relationships since the young Bae always hoped to have a closer relationship with his own father, who, despite being preoccupied with dark magic, did love Bae with all his heart. “That’s a moment we can kind of bond over,” Raymond-James says. “‘See, you know what it’s like to have a sh—y father then, too! And it’s hard and maybe I’ve been harder on you than I needed to.’”
Hurray for DaddyRumple-Nealfire mutual understanding! It may not lead to a full reconciliation, but at least we can hope their relationship is on the mend!
Even though Neal is still wary to about trusting that Rumple has Henry’s (Jared Gilmore) best interests at heart, the realization that Rumple went through a similar childhood may actually bring father and son closer. “Neal is somewhat of an internal optimist,” Raymond-James says. “He was willing to forgive his father before and the stakes have been raised now. Now he feels his son’s life is in danger as a direct result of his father and that’s hard to take. The audience realizes that Rumple’s intentions are pure, but Neal doesn’t. Neal is also somebody who’s looking for a second chance himself with Emma [Jennifer Morrison], the woman he loves, and he’s willing to give his father the 35th chance if conditions eventually work out.”
And this is why I love MRJ so much! He totally gets inside of Neal’s headspace and understands where he’s coming from.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 15, 2013 at 6:01 pm #224180RumplesGirlKeymasterThe relationship is not good,” Carlyle tells TVGuide.com. “The father only cares about himself, and he’s a selfish guy. Rumple’s father has the gift of the gab. He’s certainly a gregarious kind of guy; friends of everyone and probably no one. He’s a trickster. He’s a hopeless gambler. So he’s really not someone who is usually fitted for parenting.”
Oh jeez. I am going to hate this guy.
“The boy’s a kind of tagalong,” Carlyle explains. “You find him hanging outside the bar waiting for his father to come out.”
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“That’s a moment we can kind of bond over,” Raymond-James says. “‘See, you know what it’s like to have a sh—y father then, too! And it’s hard and maybe I’ve been harder on you than I needed to.’”
Oh God. The feelings. They hurt.
And this is why I love MRJ so much! He totally gets inside of Neal’s headspace and understand where he’s coming from.
AGREED.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 15, 2013 at 6:08 pm #224182MatthewPaulModerator“The father only cares about himself, and he’s a selfish guy. Rumple’s father has the gift of the gab. He’s certainly a gregarious kind of guy; friends of everyone and probably no one. He’s a trickster. He’s a hopeless gambler. So he’s really not someone who is usually fitted for parenting.”
Sounds a lot like Peter Pan, doesn’t it?
November 15, 2013 at 6:10 pm #224183SlurpeezParticipantUnlike Rumple’s relationship with Neal, which was tenuous because of Rumple’s quest for power, Malcolm really doesn’t want to have anything to do with his son. “The boy’s a kind of tagalong,” Carlyle explains. “You find him hanging outside the bar waiting for his father to come out.”
Poor little Rumple! That sounds an awful lot like when Bae would mope around while his mom, Milha, was out at the local tavern flirting with men, neglecting her status as a wife and mother. Something must happen such that Neal learns more about his dad’s relationship with his granddad Malcolm. Could it be Neal discovers from Rumple that PP is none other than his grandpa?
“The father only cares about himself, and he’s a selfish guy. Rumple’s father has the gift of the gab. He’s certainly a gregarious kind of guy; friends of everyone and probably no one. He’s a trickster. He’s a hopeless gambler. So he’s really not someone who is usually fitted for parenting.”
Sounds a lot like Peter Pan, doesn’t it?
Yes it does! I now think PP is DaddyPan (aka Malcolm).
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 15, 2013 at 6:12 pm #224184RumplesGirlKeymaster“The father only cares about himself, and he’s a selfish guy. Rumple’s father has the gift of the gab. He’s certainly a gregarious kind of guy; friends of everyone and probably no one. He’s a trickster. He’s a hopeless gambler. So he’s really not someone who is usually fitted for parenting.”
Sounds a lot like Peter Pan, doesn’t it?
*grumble* Yes. (whispers: TeamBrothers until the end)
Poor little Rumple! That sounds an awful like when Bae would mope around while his mom, Milha, was out at the local tavern flirting with men, neglecting her status as a wife and mother
wow it does sound like Milah. So double whammy for Rumple when he realizes his wife is like his father. Oh man. My heart already hurts.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 15, 2013 at 6:30 pm #224189Kelli AdkinsParticipantEven through I will hate Rumple’s father from reading the article. I can’t wait to see him and young Rumple. Because this has been the story line that I’ve been waiting for since the first season. Now, I’m curious about who his mother is and where is she.
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Wicked Sisters | Rumbelle | Outlaw Queen | Captain Swan | Scarlet Queen | Knalice | Team Adam & EddyNovember 15, 2013 at 6:34 pm #224190RumplesGirlKeymasterEven through I will hate Rumple’s father from reading the article. I can’t wait to see him and young Rumple. Because this has been the story line that I’ve been waiting for since the first season. Now, I’m curious about who his mother is and where is she.
I am also curious about Rumple’s mother. My guess is that she died in childbirth.
(I am so going to hate Rumple’s father)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 15, 2013 at 6:35 pm #224191MatthewPaulModeratorEven through I will hate Rumple’s father from reading the article. I can’t wait to see him and young Rumple. Because this has been the story line that I’ve been waiting for since the first season. Now, I’m curious about who his mother is and where is she.
Maybe Rumple’s mom died in child birth, and that could be a reason why Malcolm isn’t fond of Rumple? He would blame Rumple for the death of his wife.
November 15, 2013 at 6:54 pm #224201RumplesGirlKeymasterKelli Adkins wrote: Even through I will hate Rumple’s father from reading the article. I can’t wait to see him and young Rumple. Because this has been the story line that I’ve been waiting for since the first season. Now, I’m curious about who his mother is and where is she.
Maybe Rumple’s mom died in child birth, and that could be a reason why Malcolm isn’t fond of Rumple? He would blame Rumple for the death of his wife.
That has been my theory all along as well. I hope we at least hear where Rumple’s mother is, if they can’t show it.
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