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November 17, 2013 at 11:31 pm #224612
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ParticipantThe spinners were so suspect. They kinda reminded me a bit of Jiminy’s parents, though not as mean because they weren’t trying to hurt anyone, but they just seemed like a sneaky pair.
Which goes back to the theory many of us have that the BF knows magic is dying and is trying to save it in order to save herself.
Maybe she broke a rule, similar to how Malcolm did, and she had her own oversized hourglass.
[adrotate group="5"]November 18, 2013 at 1:15 am #224654kfchimera
ParticipantI thought they were totally shady, and might be Blue and another fairy (maybe TB but not if only 100 years old)–maybe the fairies are the fates?
It was odd they just gave away a valuable bean and how did Rumple get back? There is more story here, perhaps to be picked up with the wraith.
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I’m wondering if maybe the Spinsters were Rumple’s aunts, and if they are fairies, if that means his mother was one too, perhaps she died in childbirth. We’ve had a theory forever that Pan fell in love with a fairy and that’s why Blue was anti-love for fairies. What if it wasn’t BLUE’s romance, but her friend and fellow fairy, Red? If this ties into the SLeeping Beauty story, which we might see more of in the back half of the season, it could make a lot of sense.What if there are 3 main fairies, Blue, Green and Red, who double as the “fates” of FTL. One falls in love with Malcom, and has Rumple and dies, or becomes evil creating the first Dark One . This is the reason Blue says love for fairies is bad, and sets up her connection with Malcom/PP. The other Green has something happen to her (perhaps in the Sleeping Beauty part 1 story, Aurora’s mother or with Aurora). Blue tries to train replacement fairies with Nova (Pink) and Tink (lighter leaf green) but Tink doesn’t quite have what it takes, and Nova struggles too.
I don’t know if it quite works…its a bit crazy, but then, I tossed out Pan as de-aged father over the summer (though not to Rumple, was thinking Hook’s dad) so sometimes crazy is exactly where they go.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
November 18, 2013 at 1:47 am #224661Slurpeez
ParticipantIt was odd they just gave away a valuable bean and how did Rumple get back?
The Shadow brought young Rumple back to the EF to the spinsters’ cottage.
"That’s how you know you’ve really got a home. When you leave it, there’s this feeling that you can’t shake. You just miss it." Neal Cassidy
November 18, 2013 at 9:32 am #224715PanTheMan
ParticipantI thought they were totally shady, and might be Blue and another fairy (maybe TB but not if only 100 years old)–maybe the fairies are the fates? It was odd they just gave away a valuable bean and how did Rumple get back? There is more story here, perhaps to be picked up with the wraith. EDIT TO ADD:
I’m wondering if maybe the Spinsters were Rumple’s aunts, and if they are fairies, if that means his mother was one too, perhaps she died in childbirth. We’ve had a theory forever that Pan fell in love with a fairy and that’s why Blue was anti-love for fairies. What if it wasn’t BLUE’s romance, but her friend and fellow fairy, Red? If this ties into the SLeeping Beauty story, which we might see more of in the back half of the season, it could make a lot of sense.Source What if there are 3 main fairies, Blue, Green and Red, who double as the “fates” of FTL. One falls in love with Malcom, and has Rumple and dies, or becomes evil creating the first Dark One . This is the reason Blue says love for fairies is bad, and sets up her connection with Malcom/PP. The other Green has something happen to her (perhaps in the Sleeping Beauty part 1 story, Aurora’s mother or with Aurora). Blue tries to train replacement fairies with Nova (Pink) and Tink (lighter leaf green) but Tink doesn’t quite have what it takes, and Nova struggles too. I don’t know if it quite works…its a bit crazy, but then, I tossed out Pan as de-aged father over the summer (though not to Rumple, was thinking Hook’s dad) so sometimes crazy is exactly where they go.
This was totally my guess when I saw the new episode. The Spinters are Fairies, working for Blue Fairy, who really wants Rumple out of Enchanted Forest. She’s been barking up that tree for many years now, it seems. With Blue Fairy, the other two Spinsters make 3. So this is my favorite theory.
With all the new Greek/Roman mythology being touched on in the show, I also thought about them being the Fates (from Hercules). It would be awesome to see Hercules show up, or anyone from that story.
November 18, 2013 at 9:45 am #224716Phee
ParticipantThey were poor spinner and yet they have a magic bean that, according to Malcolm, will fetch TONS of money?
They’re also dressed very well for poor spinners. And they’re dressed almost identically, apart from their jewellery and their shawls, (one has a dark grey/almost black one, and the other is more reddish brown). The different jewellery in particular really stands out. If they’re just a couple of women who spin in their home, are they really gonna have matching uniforms? Their clothing makes me suspicious, but I dunno what to make of it.
And then there’s just 2 of them, but characters you think they could possibly be, come in sets of 3. The 3 fairies who raised Aurora, the 3 Fates. There was some talk before the ep aired about how Malcolm is the name of a character in Macbeth, and in that there are 3 witches. And those witches have the gift of prophecy, which is totally a thing that relates to Rumple’s life, and the bean is a thing that’s built into how the prophecy played out later on with Bae, so 3 prophetic Shakespearean witches would totally work…if there wasn’t just 2 of them.
November 18, 2013 at 9:46 am #224717BelleOfTheBall
ParticipantAt this point in time I am just going to assume that Blue is Rumple’s mother but he doesn’t know it. That way she can be related to Henry too…
hehe no but seriously, the spinsters were so kind and giving to Rumple. A part of me did think they wanted him to be with his father. After all, they had no idea where Rumple would direct the bean to go. Had they been the ones to suggest Neverland they would have 100% been in league with Sneaky Fairy. But in this case I think they were just looking for the boy to have a happy ending with his father. I believe their quirky attitudes were just the way the actresses decided to portray them – something different and fun to lighten the mood of what really was a dark episode.
November 18, 2013 at 9:52 am #224718RumplesGirl
KeymasterAnd then there’s just 2 of them, but characters you think they could possibly be, come in sets of 3. The 3 fairies who raised Aurora, the 3 Fates. There was some talk before the ep aired about how Malcolm is the name of a character in Macbeth, and in that there are 3 witches. And those witches have the gift of prophecy, which is totally a thing that relates to Rumple’s life, and the bean is a thing that’s built into how the prophecy played out later on with Bae, so 3 prophetic Shakespearean witches would totally work…if there wasn’t just 2 of them.
The fact that Tink lost her wings and became human makes me wonder if you can become a fairy. Maybe the third spinster is the Blue Fairy but she was elevated to Fariy-dom and then gave her sisters a magic bean to get out of FTL. We know that Moriane said Blue was older and bigger than Rumple but thus far, there is no evidence of that. (Also, Morriane was sneaky and suspect)
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 18, 2013 at 1:23 pm #224772RumplesGirl
KeymasterI’m really starting to think that Blue is the third spinster. How many parallels were there last night between Rumple/Malcolm and Baelfire/Rumple? tons! One big parallel would be if Blue gave her sisters a magic bean who in turn gave it to Rumple AND then Blue gave a magic bean to Baelfire.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"November 18, 2013 at 1:29 pm #224775TheWatcher
ParticipantI know this is a stretch, but…. WHAT. IF. they are Sarah and Mary Sanderson? Two of the three witches from Hocus Pocus >> it could happen. I doubt it but it could. My money is really on Blue (or her fairies), plotting to get Rump out of the EF, or the three Fates from Hercules.
"I could have the giant duck as my steed!" --Daniel Radcliffe
Keeper Of Tamara's Taser , Jafar's Staff, Kitsis’s Glasses , Ariel’s Tail, Dopey's Hat , Peter Pan’s Shadow, Outfit, & Pied Cloak,Red Queen's Castle, White Rabbit's Power To World Hop, Zelena's BroomStick, & ALL MAGICNovember 18, 2013 at 1:54 pm #224787kfchimera
ParticipantI don’t know about that Hocus Pocus movie, but trios are a significant trope. We mentioned before the fates as 3 spinners, as it is the old Greek myth. Moirae . Now I wonder if Bae’s friend Morraine was not BF herself? Read on in there they talk about people dying in battle remaining as shadows in the underworld. I know someone RG? talked about the Odyssey in relation to Rumple’s story.
Disney owns a few properties that reference these archetypes at least indirectly. “The Moon Spinners” though its an offhand thing there, and the reference is only explained in the novel but it is to the greek myth itself. Disney did a very awful rendition live action version with Haley Mills in that 70’s era. The novel though is by Mary Stewart (who wrote that Merlin trilogy I suggested on another thread The Crystal Caves). Could tie back into Ruby of they ever get her on, both with Wizard that made her cloak, child of the moon, I don’t know. Just coincidence though.
Disney also had the rights to The Black Cauldron which was based on The chronicles of Prydain, a classic novel by Lloyd Alexander, itself a bit of a remix of welsh myths but includes in The foundling, most notably three spinsters who who take in a small boy .
There is also a norse incarnation, the norns. This version brings in a magic tree, Ygrdissil.
There is also that fairytale The Three Spinners someone brought up that sounds very like The Rumplestilskin origin fairy tale too.
Something is for sure going on with them!
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
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