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March 4, 2013 at 12:49 pm #176854PheeParticipant
@Demileto wrote:
Cora stabs Rumple with the dagger and becomes the Dark One, but Snow uses the candle on Cora’s heart, saving Rumple and killing Cora.
I’d been thinking that Snow would save Charming, because it looks like he might get injured in the fight in the shop, but this scenario with her saving Rumple is a good one too.
I really think that whoever Snow kills, it’s gonna be with the candle, and she won’t be crushing a heart. I think the heart is just in the promo to throw everyone off, but it won’t end up being that significant. Promos lie like that all the time. 😛
[adrotate group="5"]March 4, 2013 at 1:02 pm #176859sarah_tnParticipant@thatheles wrote:
It’s not Hook since VanCity confirmed the new set is NEVERLAND!!!
Unless it’s all flash-backs (hope not) 😥
March 4, 2013 at 1:40 pm #176867RumplesGirlKeymasterI really love the candle thing to save Rumple but killing Cora. It would a great story AND you could do so much with Snow as a killer and Rumple without magic, and going into the season finale with those two being so different from this season and the previous season, it would make for fantastic watching. This is now my favorite theory.
But I do think Archie’s clock is ticking.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 4, 2013 at 2:01 pm #176877antbeeParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
I really love the candle thing to save Rumple but killing Cora. It would a great story AND you could do so much with Snow as a killer and Rumple without magic, and going into the season finale with those two being so different from this season and the previous season, it would make for fantastic watching. This is now my favorite theory.
But I do think Archie’s clock is ticking.
Yes, I love the idea of Cora’s candle coming back and being what kills her. It might be too soon for that though, and I think that Archie really will die.
If it’s Archie not only did Snow go against her conscience but she would kill a “conscience”.
I could see that; although despite their claims that they’re allowed to do anything they want, I really don’t think Disney would let them have Snow accidentally kill Archie thinking that it was Cora’s heart. It would make for a great story line, but they’re both such iconic good characters that I really don’t think Disney would ever allow Snow White to kill Jiminy Cricket off even by mistake. I could see her thinking it was Cora’s heart and about to do it, but backing out of it once Charming gives her another one of his speeches, and then someone else crushes the heart mainly Rumple, Regina, or Cora and Archie really dies this time.
March 4, 2013 at 4:01 pm #176914toomanyshipsParticipant@SpinningGold wrote:
2 Why is crushing a heart bad enough to change, when Snow and Charming killed dozens of soldiers (poor sods that were doing their job for an evil ruler, but most likely were not bad) and that did not change them in the least… But all of a sudden when it is about killing Regina or Cora, it matters? *senses plot hole*
Killing Cora would be murder. Killing those soldiers = something that happened in war, which is a lot different than murder. Yes, it’s still killing, but it’s more of a gray area.
March 4, 2013 at 4:37 pm #176930kfchimeraParticipantI think the person who posted a theory that Snow uses the candle to kill Cora to save Charming has it right. I don’t see Snow crossing a moral line for Rumple, but maybe it is to save him. And it is a pretty grey moral line, because Snow could be justified to kill in self-defense, or in active defense of someone else. When it came to little Snow potentially using the candle to save Eva, there wasn’t (that they knew about) someone actively threatening their lives. This time around, Cora is an active threat, so it’s not as dark a choice, but for Snow to use dark magic still sort of sullies her goodness. Especially, if she does it more out of revenge (for her mother’s death, or Johanna’s) then out of necessity (to protect someone Cora’s actively killing or torturing or something). And I think the flashbacks will serve to also humanize Cora more, just in time for us to wince a bit when Snow kills her, despite how absolutely evil and heartless they’ve made Cora to this point.
It also sets up great drama with Regina, who after all, at this time is reconciled and loving her mother. She ought to blame Cora, but she doesn’t, for anything, and she transferred all that hate to Snow. So when Snow kills Cora, that is going to unravel Regina even more, as well as creating a new story arc about how Snow can atone for crossing (no matter how much we as viewers think she was justified to do it) a moral line.
“If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?” -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking-Glass
March 4, 2013 at 5:54 pm #176969PanTheManParticipantI like the Candle idea, but…
Snow made a big mistake trusting Cora last night. She relinquished the dagger, and Cora still killed Johanna. I’m pretty sure Snow won’t be playing by the rules anymore. I def think Snow would crush a heart if it meant stopping Cora.
Someone mentioned we can’t trust the promo – Snow finding a heart. I really hope they find Cora’s heart and that it’s not secretly the heart of a character we love.
–promos be trippin all the time.
March 4, 2013 at 6:43 pm #176997PheeParticipant@Pan14 wrote:
Someone mentioned we can’t trust the promo – Snow finding a heart. I really hope they find Cora’s heart and that it’s not secretly the heart of a character we love.
Yes, I’d been thinking that the heart in the promo was probably just a misdirect, but I’m amending that slightly and now thinking that it’ll just be Cora’s heart, no one else’s, not even by mistake, and Snow will hold the candle over the box and Cora will go poof. Killing someone in this manner is foolproof, because if you don’t say the right name that matches the heart, then it won’t work.
March 4, 2013 at 6:50 pm #177001RumplesGirlKeymasterSo maybe it comes down to: who does Snow save by killing Cora with the candle? Two best choices: Charming and Rumple who is in big trouble after Hook hurt him.
"He was a lot of things to me" "The only conclusion was love"March 4, 2013 at 7:45 pm #177031DemiletoParticipant@RumplesGirl wrote:
So maybe it comes down to: who does Snow save by killing Cora with the candle? Two best choices: Charming and Rumple who is in big trouble after Hook hurt him.
As I said above, my bet’s on Rumple. The whole present-day plot of next week’s episode has Rumple facing his worst moment since becoming the Dark One: not only he’s extremely ill, but he’s also being cornered by the dagger-holding duo Cora and Regina. Death will be very much a reality to him, so much that I’m sure this’ll be what motivates the so-called poigonant moment between Rumple and Belle: he’ll want to hear her voice one last time before his imminent demise. With such a grim fate on the horizon, I can’t see the episode ending with a completely unscathed Rumple; at the very least he’ll lose his Dark One status.
I’ll also add that it’s my belief that the events of “The Miller’s Daughter” is what the prophecy about his undoing meant. Henry is what motivating Regina to go along Cora’s plan to target Rumple, so in a way his grandson will cause his undoing.
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